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  1. FeatsofPower

    Two Base Theory (Super Saiyan Essence)

    That won't work since Piccolo is able to see Kaioshin's movements, his speed, his ferocity and so on. Piccolo knows he cannot keep up with Kaioshin, what Piccolo thought about Kaioshin previously, is never refuted. So its true. Kaioshin > Piccolo.
  2. FeatsofPower

    Android Saga Levels

    I think I got it figured out now, I think I've accounted for nearly every issue, with just a few more left to go. Piccolo W/o Weights 1,500,000,000 Android 17 1,500,000,000 Android 18 1,400,000,000 Piccolo W/ Weights 1,350,000,000 Imperfect Cell 1,200,000,000 Super Saiyan Vegeta 1,000,000,000...
  3. FeatsofPower

    Future/Trunks Saga levels

    Unfortunately he does since Toriyama is approving his work and giving him a lot of guidance on what direction to take.
  4. FeatsofPower

    Two Base Theory (Super Saiyan Essence)

    Piccolo shows that he's inferior while Kaioshin is getting trounced, he says something like "Even Kaioshin is getting beat up..."
  5. FeatsofPower

    Android Saga Base Goku vs Weighted Piccolo

    Gero thinks Vegeta entering the battle will make things more interesting. The status quo is Vegeta > Piccolo, Super Saiyan is intended to be a complete surprise. Vegeta's superiority over Piccolo should go unquestioned, unless gives direct evidence of the contrary, Vegeta is the superior ally to...
  6. FeatsofPower

    Future/Trunks Saga levels

    Toyotarou's manga depicts Vegeta as a Base Saiyan. That should trump everything. Vegeta can't be a Super Saiyan, because if he was, he'd simply be very powerful. Vegeta literally declares himself as the #1 Saiyan right to Goku's face and claims that he will destroy him and not to let Super...
  7. FeatsofPower

    Two Base Theory (Super Saiyan Essence)

    Because... Base Saiyans ~ Yakon > Mystery Fighter >= Pui Pui > Expected Saiyans > Kaioshin > Piccolo > Base Kids ~ 18
  8. FeatsofPower

    Two Base Theory (Super Saiyan Essence)

    It doesn't work like that, you must accept the power chain first, then the power levels. If you feel Piccolo > Base Kids, your 2.5x multiplier is dead in the water.
  9. FeatsofPower

    Two Base Theory (Super Saiyan Essence)

    I'm already struggling to make Gero's calculations work with a 10x boost. I think Super Saiyan should be consistent. It's possible the boost for Vegetto was stronger in the Buu Saga than BoG.
  10. FeatsofPower

    Two Base Theory (Super Saiyan Essence)

    SSJ3 Goku 90 SSJ Gotenks 100 Base Gotenks 150 SSJ Gotenks 1,500 SSJ2 Gotenks 7,500 SSJ3 Gotenks 75,000 Sheesh
  11. FeatsofPower

    Two Base Theory (Super Saiyan Essence)

    The author envisioned it to be around 10x and I think you will need a 10x boost to make certain chains work like... SSJ KIds > Base Adults I don't think a 2.5x boost will cut it.
  12. FeatsofPower

    Two Base Theory (Super Saiyan Essence)

    This wasn't that Freeza. This was the Freeza that Goku had just quit against. And yes, exactly, it's not that Super Saiyan becomes a smaller boost, it's that Base can tap into Super Saiyan power. So... Goku gets a 50x boost from Super Saiyan. But after that, he can tap into 10% of his Super...
  13. FeatsofPower

    Two Base Theory (Super Saiyan Essence)

    No, Base Goku only gets his ki replenished. If Goku wanted to use KKx10 again, it would be the same level as before. Except this time, Goku can tap into up to 10% of Super Saiyan's power, without even transforming. Base Goku is shown to be healed and far more capable. Previously, Base Goku was...
  14. FeatsofPower

    Two Base Theory (Super Saiyan Essence)

    Its our best explanation of how to tie the two issues together.
  15. FeatsofPower

    Two Base Theory (Super Saiyan Essence)

    You are missing the nuance. Yamcha is a good source of power for them to feast on, he's nothing compared to their total power. He makes up a small percentage of their power and is not a threat, but he's good for devouring.
  16. FeatsofPower

    Two Base Theory (Super Saiyan Essence)

    So Gero is wrong, that Yamcha is not a good source of power?
  17. FeatsofPower

    Two Base Theory (Super Saiyan Essence)

    That doesn't explain how it weakened nearly immediately. Base Goku is able to dodge 100% Freeza's blast. Base Gohan is stronger than SSJ Future Trunks. Base Gohan is a good source of power to a SSJ leveled opponent. Super Saiyan was never a 50x boost.
  18. FeatsofPower

    Two Base Theory (Super Saiyan Essence)

    Certainly, that's what I'm here for. 19 picks up a power signature in the city, they think it's Goku at first, but then they learn it's Yamcha. They agree that Yamcha is a good source of energy. Is this an accurate power level reading?
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