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The OG Dragon God, Shenron. How he came to be, his realm, and whether his impatience is trivial or not.

Universal to High Universal would be a suitable range for GT Gogeta. 4D or above would be uncalled for though.

@Natasha Romanoff It's abundantly clear that you're not down for a proper debate anymore. Your response demonstrates a blatant attempt at pivoting, relying on strawman, immature comebacks, and inaccurate observations. You got ragdolled and have nothing left in the tank, so your coping...

Yet again, you're unable to actually counter. No sense of coherency either. This doesn't weaken my argument. If anything, it reinforces it. Vegeta is capable of reading a situation and conversating before physical exertion comes into play. Great, I knew that from the start. The point flew...

None of this addresses my argument. You're essentially a walking fallacy at this point. Bulma's comparison was between Beerus and Vegeta. Since she was operating under the idea that Vegeta could take Beerus, the by-product of that line of thought is that Vegeta ought to be able to do better...

So you admit it's a generality? That's what can be inferred from your initial question. If so, then it'd be contradictory for you to call my position wrong. It's unnecessarily stubborn to argue with an objective observation. Saiyans may usually solve problems with their fists, but not always...

Stop waffling and prove that Vegeta's statement isn't a generality. Bulma was wrong, so this argument is illogical. Honestly one of the worst takes you've had. A verbal warning, as to not make himself appear as bad as the aggressor [Buu] and better adhere to the environment he was in...

You haven't given a valid reason as to why my premise is conflictive. Also, the fact that we're discussing the EVIDENCE that I presented would go against the idea that it's subjective. If you disagree, then provide an actual argument instead of lazily dismissing it as ridiculous. You're telling...

You admit that it's evidence. If you just stopped there, that would've sufficed. Yet you feel the need to give a biased analysis of why you don't like the evidence. When a scenario occurs that goes against typical behaviour, the scenario itself should be analysed. The scene demonstrates that...

Not trying to change anything. Simply presented evidence to prove my point. Your decision to push a strawman shows you can't counter. Didn't say that Beerus is equivalent to Buu. He doesn't need to be. When you look at the scene, we saw Vegeta chose words over violence. If you can't give...

What's with the "fight/confront" thing? The latter word was not part of my premise. Don't get it twisted. The Beerus example serves as evidence as to why Vegeta's statement doesn't need to be taken as an absolute. You personally wanting more evidence doesn't change that evidence has already...

You brought up Vegeta saying Saiyans solve problems with their fists. The counter-argument to that is that, evidently, that isn't always the case. Hence why Vegeta did a lot of talking and only fought as a last resort. You're focusing too much on speculation of WHY, instead of the FACT itself...

Vegeta makes no mention of fear in his statement. Keep your headcanon out of this; it holds no value. What Vegeta said was a generality at most, because he doesn't always try to fight, which the scene thoroughly exemplifies. It's important to distinguish between intention and desperation...

When was fear factored into Vegeta's statement? You're making rules as you go along. No reason for your input to be considered when there's no substance behind it. You're not thinking of the scene on a macro level. Fighting is a no-no in a civilised setting, and Vegeta seemed adamant about not...

I think it ran its course though to be fair, but can see why nostalgia would kick in for some fans. As the competition got stiffer, so did the focus on what mattered.

So you pick and choose who the statement applies to? You're constantly moving the goal posts. The only thing to take-away from this is that Vegeta was in a tough spot no matter what he did. That doesn't mean it can't be concluded that talking would be less disruptive than fighting. Are you...

Yet, Vegeta opted to dance and cook before letting his fists fly. Beerus even called him a coward. This doesn't matter because Vegeta couldn't stop chaos from ensuing either way. He was screwed either way because Beerus was angry at that point. They were at Bulma's party; surely a verbal...

You have a hard time accepting facts. - A punishment does not inherently refer to fighting. Fact. - Vegeta wanted to avoid fighting and only engaged in combat due to Earth being at risk. Fact. - Power-wise, pre-enraged Vegeta did nothing significant in the plot. Fact. You need a dose of...

You've made this about supposed truth-telling, when in actuality it was just about Vegeta doing whatever it takes to stop the situation from escalating. If anything, the truth is Vegeta wanted him to leave Earth as soon as possible. He wouldn't dare to say that to Beerus because he knows that...

Would've been decent fan-service for some. But to have that happen only for him to still get shat on would be worse than what happened IMO.