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Ahh I see, I guess it was mentioned this way. So the old Daiz stuff is retconned.

I still think putting a PL for wildlife is still a bit misleading. They can be low PL but with different stats. A Gorilla might be 5times(or more) physically stronger than a Human, but we know it’s not even 2-3 times faster than a human.

Demon realm is shown in the DB world map. There should at least be another demon realm in U6 since they are stated as twin universes.

YYH> Naruto unfort

Probably Kaiba. He never let go. Vegeta at least conceded with a proud bitch smile on his face in the Buu saga.

Says the dweeb who wants to get dominated by Futa Kefla huehuehue

True, I think his showings even in his Grey body is superior.

@GreatSaiyaman123 Even bears, Dogs/Wolves have claws and devastating bites. Their hides are tough enough to tank claws and bites from their own species so their durability is at least on par with what they can dish out. Reptiles/Dinos and Sharks are another thing too. The Shark we see early in...

I believe split stats are a must

Depends on how real you want to get with real life attributes. Lack of ki control can explain how the dinosaurs in the series are susceptible to basic attacks. A gorilla may be physically more powerful than a leopard but in a straight up fight they’d more than likely die by bleeding out due to...

Bloated asf James Toney(when he fought in UFC) bounces Bruce Lee off his belly huehuehue

Yeah he just got outplayed more or less tbh

lol I won something

I think you can get away with lowering the PLs for the 21st Budokai contestants not named Nam, Krillen, Goku and Roshi. I think Roshi relaxed~Vs Yamcha are the same. You can also argue the more effort=//=PL increase for Roshi sped up vs Krillen that most people seem to be on about for Z...

K. So how does this conclude Yamchas feat an outlier? Im sure that you realize there are varying degrees of tiers within the same Attack potency/durability ranges, right? This is like saying a character isn’t planetary range just because he’s only busted a small planet like Earth, it’s...

Just because Eighters scales higher doesn’t neg Yamchas feat so I’m not sure why it’s being brought up here. Why is Giran even being brought up? He scales in line with the low tier characters in the early DB~21st Budokai/RR characters anyways so I’m not getting the comparison. The powerscaling...

How is it not about Goku being a child? Would you not be surprised if a small child broke through a 2-3 foot thick wall casually? Mind you there’s no Ki sensing in the series yet, so we’re still going with visual gauging here. Also, what feats does Giran have from the manga that scales heavily...

How? the feat isn’t outlandish at all considering what first appearance Goku could do, and what he could do after briefly training with Roshi. Giran didn’t expect a 3ft child to break a thick stone wall, Pamput did a similar feat later in the series. Nah, that’s like saying Roshis moon busting...

It’s possible that he briefly powers up in short bursts immediately before he throws the melee and regresses back to normal. Goku uses this method when fighting Nappa and the Ginyus so it’s not uncommon.

Sure, or Piccolo/Kid Gohan/Krillen all each blind siding True Form Freeza. He shouldn’t be able to, Z Goku doesn’t have the same level of naivety that Kid Goku does and he can read his movements with ki. Hard to say, context is key. 1.8-2x gap minimum I’d say, since that should be what PC/SSJ2...