Chapter: 240 (DBZ 46), P8.3
Vegeta: “Damn it! If I hadn’t taken so much damage, then 1 or even 2 guys like this…[wouldn’t be a problem]. That moon I created will last another hour. I’ve got to cut his tail off!!”
I'm back on the "Gohan was a SSJ2" trail. Art be damned.
I think the dialogue just makes more sense overall and I think we need to force it to make sense with AT's bad writing. There's only two pieces of dialogue that hurt it, I rather rewrite it honestly.
Here's the chain of thought that...
Here's a list of all of the powers of Vegeta.
FP Vegeta > Initial Vegeta >= KKx2 Goku
Now Damaged Vegeta...
FP Vegeta > Post Galick Gun Vegeta > Post Power Ball Vegeta > Post Oozaru Vegeta > Post Spirit Bomb Vegeta > Post Oozaru Gohan Vegeta
We know Post Oozaru Vegeta seems to be around...
I think this is a 10x technique. It's a pre-cursor to Ikari and it works the way it is suggested to work. It is the power of the Oozaru in Goku's humanoid form. I don't think he can use this continuously, but he can use it at will later referenced when he fights Mr. Popo.
Oozaru First is...
Ok here's my attempt at this. This thing is way more complex than I expected...
Nappa 3,200
Masenko 2,800
Kikoho 2,600
Enraged Gohan 2,500
Suicide Blast 2,250
Scattering Bullet 2,000
Piccolo...
Saibaman's Suicide Blast should be superior to Chaozu's?
Saibaman Suicide Blast > Chaozu Suicide Blast > Piccolo?
It feels like every damn blast is above Piccolo. Piccolo is so weak in this saga it's crazy.
Let's assume that the only reason Gohan is weaker is because he cannot access his full power unless via rage.
Let's assume Teen Gohan = Kid Gohan, except his top end SSJ2 power.
If he's a SSJ2 against Dabura, this might be possible.
This would force the rage boost to be quite significant and...
Scattering Blast
Suicide Blast
Kikoho
Masenko
how does Piccolo hold up against these blasts?
I think the Scatterijg Blast is probably getting close to his level.
Gohan doesn't use the Masenko against 3rd Form Freeza and uses a regular blast.
Gohan was having trouble with the Saibaman's super-speed. Is it possible Gohan cannot amp his attacks at all and Masenko is just a beginner technique?
During the time of Nappa and Vegeta. Piccolo took off his weights before the Saiyans get there, how strong is he in comparison to Gohan if he keeps the weights on?
Nappa punched back the Masenko.
Freeza kicked back the Final Burst Cannon.
Raditz used all his strength to block the KHH.
Freeza used all his strength to block the KKx20 KHH.
Can Raditz and Freeza punch or kick back their respective Kamehamehas?
What happens if Nappa/Freeza (vs Vegeta)...
Hey dudes, I'm working on an anime strength checker. This list is exhaustive, insanely detailed like you wouldn't believe. I rather have too much information than not enough. This project looks to show the full context of characters and their power statements. Often times a sentence or two...
This is simple.
Premise 1: Vegeta considers Krillen helpful against 1st Form Freeza.
Premise 2: Vegeta does not consider Piccolo to be helpful against FF Freeza.
Conclusion: FF Freeza's advantage over Piccolo is far greater than 1st Form Freeza's advantage over Krillen.
Fight me!
I think Weighted Goku/Piccolo > 23rd Budokai Goku/Piccolo despite the anime line, which is what we've all thought anyway.
But here is some proof.
Goku expects his Unweighted Power + Piccolo's Weighted Power. He had no idea that Piccolo had powered up and had heavy weights on.
Goku states that...
Gohan is able to sustain this power for a long duration of time. Gohan's emotions are bringing out his true power. Many times Gohan's enraged power seems to have doubled his power, so 1,307 off of 710 is very in line with later rage bursts.
Damn, Gohan is super strong. And Raditz treats 710 as...