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Kuririn was helpful against 2nd form Freeza too. If you take this logic to its natural conclusion, the gap between Piccolo and Initial Final form Freeza has to be bigger than the gap between Kuririn and 2nd form Freeza (at least his power up vs. Gohan, not necessarily his full power).

The Genki Dama wins. I believe Freeza powered up to 70% for both the Kaioken x20 Kamehameha and the Genki Dama, so a ki attack at 50% power likely isn't gonna cut it.

Cell did break Gohan's arm with a blast. Generally if you are way weaker than your opponent you can't really do much damage to them.

It's never exactly stated how much Cell powered up when he goes full power, so how much do you think he was using against Goku? 50%? 70%?

@Power Level Guy Is there a statement indicating Freeza powered up to kick away Vegeta's blast?

I think Freeza was putting out more power during his warm up vs. Goku than anything he showed before, including kicking away Vegeta's blast.

Did Vegeta surpass Cell, or does he still fall short?

Chapter: 195 (DBZ 1), P13.2-5 Raditz: “There’s another large power…! It’s big…The greatest on this world...This time it has to be Kakarot!” BoZ Weighted Goku is > God according to the manga, so nothing contradicts him being equal to his 23rd TB full power.

While it's true that Goku has spared dangerous opponents in the original manga, DBS still lacks nuance in the way they handle it imo. Vegeta was the first person to truly demonstrate just how far Goku still had to go in terms of fighting. Chapter: 241 (DBZ 47), P10.1 Goku: “I trained under...

Oh nvm it looks like it actually does have most of the chapters with Japanese names, guess I'll just stick with that lol

Yeah I think I'll do that, I saw that Mangadex doesn't have all the chapters, but once I get far enough in I'll probably start translating the names in my mind automatically, so it won't be such a big deal.

Honestly I enjoyed the start quite a bit, it might have been that the Chinese names were throwing me off. I'm gonna give it another shot though.

Zeno can output 1.6 quadragintillion (10^123) joules lol Numbers kinda lose their meaning once you get past anything that can be obtained within the observable universe.

The worst filler for me excluding Boo Saga shit is Gohan knocking around 50% Freeza when enraged. Even worse that they kept it in Kai.

I will never read HxH, Yu Yu Hakusho is better.

I think Abayama should've won the fight against Giichi. At the very least have it be a double kill or something.

Time is a cruel mistress, all we can do is enjoy the time we have.

I'm gonna read Kingdom soon I think. I tried before a long while ago but stopped for some reason that I don't remember.

Yeah, Base Trunks was struggling to move around in 150G, but then was able to move around effortlessly as a Super Saiyan. I believe having a higher power does it make it easier to move around in higher gravity, but if you're not already acclimated to moving in higher gravity then you're still...