Regardless of the result which is pretty much obvious, I think it would have an interesting idea: the two men that were on Babidi's side opposing against Majin Buu for distinct reasons (Dabura because he knew Majin Buu is not qualified to be his servant and Vegeta because he brought him and...
Gowasu states that if they merge they would create a powerful Kaioshin:
Would it get similar results to Kibito Kaioshin and barely affects Present Zamasu's power?
Of course, Zamasu alone is too powerful for a Kaioshin, and this Fusion would surpass his own power, so I think it'd be too.
I mean, when they hadn't appeared yet. How strong do you think Vegeta imagined them to be? Vegeta has at least the notion of Freeza being able to transform and that how strong Semi Cell and 18 were. Yet, he allowed them to transform or absorb 18 and still thought they (him, Krillin and Gohan in...
Androids arc:
Gohan 5.400.000
Piccolo 5.404.000
Piccolo 270.720.000
Trunks 6.800.000
SSj Trunks 340.000.000
Goku 9.500.000
SSj Goku 475.000.000
Vegeta 9.600.000
SSj Vegeta 480.000.000
Android 19 180.000.000
Post Goku Kamehameha absorbed 200.000.000
Post Vegeta energy absorbed 225.000.000...
According to Cell's data, he states that with his (Trunks') level, he wouldn't be able to defeat the androids, much less him:
After Trunks pushes him back, Cell states that Trunks has gotten stronger before Trunks went SSJ:
Do you think this is in reference of his base self now surpassing...
I think every comment in the initial debut of SSJG makes it appear like Goku had expectations of SSJ God, but at the end it surpassed it greatly, this is also shown considering that after acknowledging that not even fusing with Vegeta, he asked himself if that SSJ God could be achieved through...
If this list receives enough supportment, then I would make a part talking about the levels in the Buu Saga.
Androids Arc:
Gohan: 5.000.000
Piccolo: 5.200.000
FP: 260.000.000
Trunks: 6.800.000
SSj Trunks: 340.000.000
Goku: 9.500.000
SSj Goku: 475.000.000
Vegeta: 9.600.000
SSj Vegeta...
Do you think this feat should already put his initial Perfect self stronger than Super Vegeta and that he was just emitting a ki that appeared to be weaker than Vegeta similar to how he was masking his ki of Goku, Freeza (thinking that he was still alive) and the others while being in his...
I think the narrative makes clear that Vegeta surpassed Good Buu as he was confident on beating him which is something he said to Beerus, he doesn't had any reason to talk out his ass on here, also Bulma told Vegeta to beat on Beerus even after watching Good Buu getting slapped.
Who do you...
This is not a thread related to power gaps.
Cell decided to explode himself, as well as Super Buu. In the case of Cell because he obviously stand no chance and Buu to dissapear so his plan of absorbing Gotenks can work, although Gohan explained that he couldn't have been able to stop him if...
Goku Black & Android 18 stated that Vegeta pushed them too far, as well as use the term "human" (18 only uses it in the manga):
When Goku Black defeats Vegeta, he claims that he's just a warm up, in a similar way, Android 18 doesn't consider Vegeta that great even after hearing that he is...
Don't you think this just goes on to tell us how much Trunks has progressed since the last time we saw him, putting him fighting against someone who is Cell tier in terms of power and showing us that Toriyama always intended Dabura to be on that level? Or why don't you think this is the case...
From what we are shown, Janemba isn't strong enough to tank SSJ3 Goku's attacks:
However, since SSJ3 Goku is untested against any form of Super Buu, we can't tell for sure whether Super Buu would be able to tank SSJ3 Goku.
His blasts are shown to be powerful enough to damage this Goku...
Do you think Goku is talking about the suppressed Beerus that defeated him or speculating about an hypothetical full power Beerus? Is Goku expecting Vegeta to have grown stronger or he is counting Vegeta as is his Buu saga self? Do you think Goku is aware of Vegeta having gotten stronger?
Case #1: SSJ3 Gotenks
Case #2: Ultimate Gohan
Case #3: Gotenks Buu
Case #4: Gohan Buu
Actual explanations and valid logic are welcomed to try to establish a limit to SSJ Gogeta, headcanon theories or logic such as "Movie 12 started its production at therefore Gogeta has to be weaker than...
Some people use Whis statement about Jiren "perhaps" surpassing Belmod or that "it appears" that the rumor is true to discredit this notion, however, in past instances similar things have been said from Whis:
When everyone realized that Kaioken x20 Goku was powerless against Jiren:
When is...
I am talking about the Vegeta that challenged 4th form Freeza, 3rd form Freeza can't access into his final form, neither Goku can use Kaioken (this is the Goku after his Zenkai). Who wins?