It is hard to be neutral/objective when it comes to Gogeta or hard to be logical & not letting favoritism take precedence when it comes to overrating Buu or Vegetto? Probably both?
If anything, the massive wank to the kids and the downplaying of Gogeta is dismantled by the Anime itself showing...
There's one scan which tell us that Gotenks might have defeated Buu, if it is referring to Fat Buu or Super Buu, is speculative. Goku's comparison seems to come in hand with how Janemba is stronger than Fat Buu, as he acknowledge how he is the 2nd one who pushed him to go SSJ3, so he's likely...
@SIAD
I don't think Janemba powered up against Gogeta, sure he was serious unlike with Goku, Vegeta or Paikuhan, but we know that Janemba could receive a blast from SSJ3 Goku without much damage while SSJ3 Goku gets completely damaged, but that's the strongest opponent he faced (aside from...
Janemba is likely only Base Super Buu level or slighty higher (although that is speculative). SSJ3 Goku doesn't seem that much stronger than his canon self as he remarks Janemba surpassing Fat Buu as something impressive.
Could Base Vegetto resist a punch straight to the face from Janemba (attacking directly the eye which is a very sensible part of the body) without flinching like SSJ Gogeta did?
If your answer is yes, that is subjective. If your answer is no, is subjective too. Having say that, there's no real...
Nothing supports Gogeta's placement in the Buu Saga other than vague statements, but the main suggestion is that Potara base form should be plenty to win against someone who could be defeated by SSJ Metamoran Fusion (which also is vague as SSJ is refered in general terms such as Old Kaioshin...
@Dagon
Well you have brought fair points as far as I'm concerned. Nail could also move Freeza's neck despite of being abysmally weaker than what Vegeta was to Cell. It would also explain some non canon stuff such as Goku or Vegeta being able to move Broly's neck with knees and punches, even...
@Dagon
Both androids are grouped together by 16 and Cell when it comes to say that Piccolo rivals/is able to fight the two of them and the only reason that establishes that 17 > 18 is that manga page in which is said that 18's power was suppressed in relation to 17. Other than that the story...
In my opinion:
18 should be closer to 17
Trunks should be closer to Vegeta 1st Rosat
Semi Cell gap over 16 should be greater than Perfect Cell over Super Vegeta
The Power Weighted forms in Cell shouldn't increase the same as from saiyans
50% Goku placement is weird (I can agree that there's no...
This is who about do you think would be stronger and how would gaps work, not who would win in a fight (as the result would be similar to SSJ3 Goku vs Kid Buu).
I have Vegeta slightly better.
Most of the gaps on here makes quite a lot of sense and this completely defeats the purpose of having a bloated list that doesn't make sense. Some numbers are hard to adopt, though.
Assuming they don't have any knowledge about either one of them and as well as assuming that Vegetto & Gogeta are individual people (so they can stay forever). Who do you think is winning?
Everyone is bloodlusted and can use all of their arsenal of techniques.
Vegetto is grouped with Android...
@Kyo
Buu likes people to suffer, which is shown with Shin and Vegeta, he isn't playing with Gohan or Dabura which is why he put them down in a few blows.
Tbf, Freeza probably wasn't using that level of effort (50%) against Goku because he didn't one-shot him even though he angered him, even...
@PowerLevel Guy @GreatSaiyaman123
Goku landed less blows on Cell than Freeza did on Goku, but I have to say that is hard to keep something above 90 from Freeza vs Goku due to Kaioken x20 Goku vs 50% Freeza.
For example:
Kkx10 Goku: 10
Kkx20 Goku: 20
Kamehameha: 22
50% Freeza: 23.75
100%...