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@Papasmurf Does Goku has MSSJ eyes when he’s a SSJ agaisnt Yakon? Is he suppressed or no

There’s some people here who are nerfing the Pterodon. A gorilla is one 100% one shotting our strongest human beings. The Pterodon dwarfs a gorilla and would stomp him.

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Any reason to think the Base Saiyans are all that strong? Considering that SSJ Goku (BoG) is only a bit above Kid Buu or so, then it appears that Base Goku has a lot of room to grow to catch up to his EoZ self. Any reason why a 50x boost for Base Goku isn't enough? I'd say let's exclude Base...

Here’s how it’s done @Kyo SSJ Vegeta 100 SSJ Goku 96 SSJ Trunks 90 Piccolo 80 Android 20 67 Android 19 60 This is super elite. There is literally no other way to get this done.

I just noticed this. Actual Super Vegeta > Semi Cell FP > Expected Super Vegeta > Initial Semi Cell Cell thinks he can beat Super Vegeta with his power-up and Vegeta even confirms he does a huge power-up. This proves that Grade 2 is a 2.5x boost at minimum.

Gotenks got at least 1.5x stronger, why shouldn’t the boys?

The more you play around with these numbers, the more you realize how big they need to be. Gohan is literally delaying Goku's training. Goku has hit his peak, Goku doesn't plan on gaining much power on his own, he knows he needs to surpass the Super Saiyan state. Vegeta surpassed the state in...

It took Vegeta two months to break the Super Saiyan wall in the RoSaT. It seems implied that this power is enough to surpass the Androids by a wide margin. How strong do you think Vegeta is at this point of the story? How much power has he gained in his Super Saiyan form?

@Mexican Warrior has brought up a lot of good arguments why they should be the same. I’m having a hard time rebutting him as I think he’s likely correct. The narrative is clear, Gohan is delaying Goku’s training while he’s catching up, once he catches up he will make a great sparring partner...

Ok, I think I got this figured out now. Check it out. SSJ Goku 240 Piccolo 250 Hellzone Grenade 375 Light Grenade 500 Grade 2 Goku 600 Imperfect Cell 750 Semi Cell 1,500 Grade 3 Goku 1,800 Super Vegeta 3,750 Perfect Cell 7,500 Buff Trunks 10,500 Buff Cell 10,500 50% Goku 12,500 So going with...

Typically we assume a 50% gap is what's needed to tank. I think I finally found a good way to figure this thing out. So it appears that Freeza uses a standard type of ki blast, probably one with very little amp and perhaps none at all, and then he goes to his go-to move, which is his Death...

After much analysis I'm going to conclude that Goku fought Metallic at his full power, as he did against Buyon as well. When Goku says he is going to go all out, he just means he's going to do a desperate attack. Goku's idea of "all out" is pretty much charging without much thought and giving...

This jumping feat by Namu is literally absurd. Now, flying, running, jumping, lifting feats do not scale linearly with power level, but it's interesting to see what a difference this is between Namu and Krillin/Goku right after their training ends. Namu is ridiculously high up in the air...

Between these two pictures, who appears to be using more effort?

Which blast has a higher amp?

This is just super clean. Had to share. Android 19 70 Android 20 75 Goku (Sicker) 80 Android 19 (Post) 90 Android 20 (Post) 100 Goku (Sick) 100 Piccolo 120 Trunks 140 Goku 150 Vegeta 160 Imperfect Cell 180 Imperfect Cell (Post) 185 Piccolo (Regen) 205 Piccolo (Post) 215 Piccolo W/ Weights 220...

At the 23rd Budokai, Piccolo is severely damaged, can barely stand and Kami wants no smoke with him. Kami is less than 10% of Piccolo. Piccolo is about as damaged as Vegeta was in the Saiyan Saga. Vegeta's power level is somewhere close to 10% of his power, no reason we can't copy/paste this...

1. Piccolo sees Krillin's Scatter Shot and calls it very powerful. 2. Nappa tanks the Scatter Shot and the cast is in shock. 3. Nappa does a tremendous power up and scares the hell out of everyone. Piccolo can't believe that Nappa has become this strong. 4. Chaozu blows himself up in an...

After rereading Dragon Ball, I've come to realize that we've been shortchanging the gap between these 3. Krillin was easily taken out by Jackie Chun at the Budokai, and Blue although toying, seems to be around a similar level to Jackie, albeit probably a bit weaker. Now Goku easily handles...