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I've been strict about SSJ multipliers for a while, but I think Daima gives the perfect excuse to nerf SSJ multipliers. SSJ doing barely any better than base? Base adults > SSJ4 minis? Yeah this is some GT-level nerfed multipliers. SSJ is the good old 2.5x and SSJ3 is probably twice that. First...

I’ll give each episode a thumbs up or thumbs down. Each thumbs up will be half a point and in the end they’ll add up for a 10 points score, with points added or deducted from the overall flow of the series. Episode 1 has a greatly animated recap of the Boo Saga (and surprisingly consistent...

This is a red hot topic when it comes to DBS, but I don’t think it was ever touched here in Zeta. In the anime Goku absorbs SSJG’s power into his lower forms, but some people think it was retconned. In the manga there’s no clear absorption and base Saiyans are featless. Is Goku barely stronger...

Full power: 18,000 Post beam struggle: 14,500 Post Ki Ball: 4,500 Oozaru: 45,000 Post Oozaru: 3,000 Post Genki Dama: 1,500 Goku: 8,000 ~ Post beam struggle: 4,000 ~ Hypothetical Kaioken x5: 20,000 - 40,000? Genki Dama: 50,000 ~ Weakened: 25,000 Gohan: 1,250 ~ Enraged: 2,500 ~ Oozaru: 12,500...

@Power Level Guy @SSJ2 @SIAD Going by Kamehameha = Garlic Gun and Garlic Gun = 1.33x, I think it's fair to say that's the amp in the Saiyan Saga. Goku (FP vs Raditz): 693 (75% of 924) ~ Kamehameha: 924 Piccolo (FP vs Raditz): 680 (2/3 of 1020, the number Raditz gets when Piccolo starts...

Moro always felt like a DBZ villain to me (Probably because he’s a mix of the big 3), and with all the Kaioshin lore he’d feel adequate as a villain immediately after the Boo Saga. Just take alway the god forms and tighten the plot a bit and it would be much better, wouldn’t it?

Just thought about this in the Cell regen thread. In the Boo Saga, Goten or Trunks accidentally broke Piccolo’s statue. Later he comes back like nothing happened, brushing it off with regen. But we saw before that arms alone cost a ton of Ki. How is Piccolo alright after regenerating his whole...

We touched this subject lightly on SSJ2’s list and I got interested, so I made this thread for scaling. Hopefully we can get a better grasp of how strong Goku is. I want to see if we can keep him at that goold old 50 (10x farmer), but it might be more. Here’s the basics. Just remember, power...

Episode 29 Time: around 13m Context: After Vegeta knocks Goku through a small mountain Vegeta: "Bit the dust, have you?" Goku: "Y-you sure are strong... [ ] I-it's been a long time since I fought someone strong, like you..." Vegeta: "I will concede that your feelings are worthy of the mightiest...

Namek Kuririn: 250,000 Gohan: 300,000 ~ Enraged: 900,000 ~ Zenkai: 1,000,000 ~ Enraged: 2,000,000 ~ Masenko: 2,500,000 Piccolo (Weighted): 270,000 ~ Fused with Nail: 1,350,000 ~ Unweighted: 1,687,500 Vegeta: 500,000 ~ Zenkai: 5,000,000 ~ Planet Buster: 6,750,000 Goku: 8,000,000 ~ FP...

Kaioshin can’t use paralysis or eye kiai. Who wins? How close is this fight? Babidi seems to consider Kaioshin a total non factor in the ship.

Gohan: 1 ~ SSJ2 + rage: 2.5 Cell: 1 ~ FP: 1.5 ~ SPC: 2.25 Making it 4-5x is just too cumbersome post Cell Games. It just snowballs into unecessary bloat as early as the fusion saga.

1) SSJG Goku (BoG) 2) Golden Freeza (RoF) 3) SSJR Goku Black 4) Base Toppo 5) SSJBE Vegeta 6) UI Sign Goku (ToP) 7) FP Jiren 8) Super FP Jiren How far does he go?

What do you think?

Toriyama once said that his Bardock is amongst the peak low class soldiers, and in another interview he said Raditz is high class. So who takes it? R1: Bardock pre Cereal R2: Bardock post Cereal

At least Chaozu was relevant in the 22nd Budokai, Oob is as useless as Jobhan. His one moment in the limelight was getting stomped by SBV2, and there isn't even a emotional sacrifice or anything! There's people out there who think he's weaker than Pan, and I don't blame them. Also, DBO Toriyama...

Babidi is defeated without incident and the Saiyans have their rematch. Obviously Goku is going to win, but how close is the fight? Can Vegeta put up a fight? What does it look like?

What’s up with that name? He’s neither a vampire nor kryptonian.

Who wins? I’m starting to lean towards Vegeta. Much easier to take his “we’re stronger than Gohan now” at face value instead of circling around the question with excuses like “Budokai was retconned” or “He meant in equal forms”.

Sorry for making FT and ToP long (It's not that long anyway) BATTLE OF GODS REVIVAL OF F UNIVERSE 6 SAGA FUTURE TRUNKS SAGA TOURNAMENT OF POWER BROLY MORO GRANOLAH SUPER HERO BLACK FREEZA SAGA