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“I will remind everyone the feat has some details from Godku, the third strike was implied to end it, and so we're clear the previous ones aren't on that level. Nothing got destroyed after several shockwaves which ended in a condensed tug of war, but then they power up further and beam struggle...

And Toei has rejected/deleted this very statement after Koyama has stated that each movie villain is stronger than the last. Plus Toei was going off of the sole assumption that M13 Goku isn't any stronger than M12 Goku even though M13 is 2 years after M12 and Goku has a new technique (Dragon...

The way movies work, the premise by the writers [Koyama?] being that the next villain is always stronger than the previous.

Hirudegarn > Janemba

I think Cell would've easily tanked it had he been using Full Power.

Pre Majin? SSJ2 Majin Vegeta > SSJ3 Pre Majin Vegeta.

All we know is that Piccolo is more powerful than he was against Android 17, yes he fought against the Cell Jrs. But we can easily chalk that up into the Cell Jrs being heavily suppressed, especially since a stronger Buu Saga Piccolo is inferior to Shin (Supreme Kai) who's stated equal to Cell...

Super Janemba may be more powerful than even Buuhan.

Using that guide that indicates Buu Saga Super Vegetto >=< Fusion Reborn Super Gogeta. Gogeta.

Pikkon doesn't really have anything going for him in Movie 12 other than him sparring evenly with Base Goku at the beginning of the movie. So Vegeta.

In case you don't know, this thrives off the sole premise of whether the power Beerus used against Goku was the same as when he fought Vegeta/Z Fighters. Goku said that Fusion (presumably SSJ3 Vegetto) wouldn't be enough to beat Beerus due to getting his ass beat from 2 blows. Yet later on, an...

Yeah, they're 13k-14k. That's a 30-40% edge above 10k. A huge gap.

I remember somewhere stating he was over 10,000 (can't remember what source though). So I just have him above that.

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Dragon Ball GT: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U9TrhqdmE5mX5TLbeVnnqcLpaI5T3kNFQEjPyhsOO-U/edit?usp=drivesdk Dragon Ball Super Anime: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XJx6K0qxubZ8hO3yGQV0WA1m4jOsVD4UbEJ5qd2486Q/edit?usp=drivesdk Dragon Ball Super Manga (no Super Hero Arc)...

Different platform.

Yeah but I was ignoring those tactics, staying on topic which was the more important task. So it was a lose lose situation regardless.

@Natasha Romanoff Eye for an Eye, the Golden Rule: Treat people how you wanna be treated. That's why I wanted to Voice Chat to wrap this all up, you don't know whether I was mocking you or not simply because you don't know anybody's Tone through Text.

Because you know I'm right. Aye, Confirmation Bias if it makes you feel better ♀️. You sure been responding quite a lot to not care. Why do you lie?

Prior to the Namek Saga, Tien was always above Krillin in Power. At the beginning of Z he had a Power Level of 250 while Krillin was at 206, a 1.214× edge over Krillin, he'd demolish him. But 1 year later during the Saiyan Saga the gap became smaller but Tien was still above Krillin, having a...