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His range is quite large. Fusion is a tricky one to deal with, there's the whole issue of Gokan vs Vegetto, and then BoG Vegetto > Gokan. Also, if FF Freeza ~ SSJ God Goku BoG, then, it factors in for me some things. As it stands, I'd probably prefer Vegetto 400 Buuhan 375 Gokan 350 Buutenks...

Because Gohan received multiple zenkais on top of his boost from Guru. Where is it suggested Krillen got stronger from the time he received it to prior to Gohan receiving it?

Are you making the claim no other Saiyan can do this but Trunks?

How much stronger did Krillen get from the first statement to the second?

No, Trunks version of Super Saiyan 2 should be easily replicable. Gohan is a different story, he's a person who can tap into rage to bring out his dormant ability.

Because it's not true. Goku uses KKx20 with Super Saiyan Blue at ToP, it doesn't matter how bloated that is, it is what it is. SSJB Gogeta > SSJFP Broly >>> Base Gogeta > SSJ Broly It doesn't matter how bloated that chain is, Broly's SSJFP is insanely powerful. We have to stick with the facts.

No, he wasn’t suppressed. He had a feeling he could tap into more power and he did. The full extent of Super Saiyan 2 power equals Super Saiyan 3. Trunks is the only one to figure that out. DBS Manga wise, Super Saiyan 3 is completely useless and Super Saiyan 2 can equal it without the...

Krillen thought the same thing when he brought him to Guru’s. How big of a gap is that?

I think that's what Kyo said as well. I'm definitely changing up. No Hands Freeza has to be a completely different level than what was previously shown. That's the only way to make sense of it. And the confusion of the blast situation is a combination of Freeza's power at the time being...

Vegeta is shocked by Gohan's ability to power up through rage. It's just talking about his regular old power I'd guess. Yeah, I've always taken this as an opportunity to extend the gap between the two.

He took Gus down and dominated. Also, the need to take him down is nowhere near the need to take Francis down. And Gus is a far more experienced wrestler than Francis is. Not sure if you know but Gus lost to Phil Davis, one of the best wrestlers in MMA, and then trained for many years with him...

That's just saying Gohan > Krillen. Not talking about his enraged power.

When? Where?

Of course. Especially during a time where we are generally trying to squeeze power levels to make them fit. What do you think? Is he tapping into the full power of a Great Ape?

Hmm. Just remembering another power chain that debunks this as well. Goku is able to keep up with someone who can kick back Vegeta's biggest attack. Freeza Warm Up >= Goku Warm Up > Vegeta Goku and Freeza's Warm Up powers have to probably be 1.5x Vegeta. Then, Freeza knows Goku has more in...

They seem to be fighting evenly but then Yamcha claims to be able to beat the rest. Was he holding back until the after image?

It's possible the Broly idea stems from the idea of the Great Ape Fist in the first place. Either way, the evidence ties those two ideas together. AT portrayed Goku tapping into his Oozaru power to amp his power up, it is what it is. Great Ape Fist should logically be able to tap into the full...

Haha, can't wait to watch the fanboys twist themselves into knots trying to explain how to make everything work to fit these.

Yeah, I mean unless you have any other way around it. I think it's legit though, don't you? Yeah, you are probably right. It's an amp no doubt, both King Piccolo and Mr. Popo make note of it. Broly is also capable of tapping into his Oozaru power while in his normal form. It seems that Goku...

I'm more of a minimalist, but I definitely lean as much as I can to trying to find accurate, justified levels. But yeah, when they get too bloated, the series feels too spaced out. Unfortunately for us, this is a super bloated series and forget about Super.