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It's a great anime. Might not make much sense on your first watch unless you really pay attention and connect as many dots as you can. I like to look at it through the lens of some of the aspects of Freudian "psychology". Last episodes are a doozy :shin

The way I beat him was to charge up enough ki for a kamehameha, just sidestep his super and counter with your own. You can also try going into sparking and bumrushing him, since I think that gets past his hyper armour.

You guys need to do Gohan's what ifs asap, shit is fire.

That's funny, exactly the what if I made. They need a way to search for terms in the dialogue creation, the emotion stuff doesn't cut it. Scrolling through the options takes up like 90% of my what if maker time.

In terms of the fight between just Goku and Vegeta, Vegeta had Goku squarely beaten. I believe Vegeta considers it a loss as a whole though because of Gohan and Krillin (he says something alluding to that somewhere, cant remember where though).

I want to see what some of you think about the fight, like: 1. How does Gohan compare to Goku in strength and speed? 2. Were they holding back in the fight or going all out? 3. How does Vegeta compare? (I ask this because he fights in the group match in Blue Evolved and seems to stalemate with...

The raging blast series was already essentially the spiritual successor to the tkaichi series, or spiritual cousin if you prefer, so sparking zero kind of is rb3 in a way. The heavy tenkaichi association is far more profitable tho.

I am Dragon Ball

The amp Goku got from absorbing the others ki was stated in some material to be a 1000x boost. In that case, no, there is no way Gohan could overcome that even with a rage boost and a 2x multiplier...

Goku is absolutely sure he can win against Buutenks if he and Gohan use Fusion, with the stronger form of Buuhan convinced a Fusion of Goku and Vegeta cannot. Buu's statement is uncontradicted, but his reliability is debatable. I don't see an alternate to ascertaining Buu Saga Gogeta without...

Strongest hero in the universe vs strongest warrior in history. Also yeah, I agree with Gogeta > Buuhan

DBZ Movie 12 anime comic guide implies Canon Vegetto > M12 Gogeta 悟空&ベジータがポタラによって合体，誕生したのが史上最強の戦士ベジットだ!能力，性格ともにふたりの特徴が融合，パワーも数段のアップを遂げ、無敵の強さを誇る!!

I love this thread bro

I've got Super Vegetto > SSJ4 Goku (Baby Saga).

Probably like Yi Xing Long or something. I don't have much knowledge with GT though.

@SIAD I have: Super Vegetto 3 > Ultimate/SSJ3 Gokuhan > Super Vegetto > Base Vegetto > Base Gokuhan ~ Buuhan > Buutenks

I agree with you. It is possible that the Matamoru Fusion gets the rival amp, but there is no proof for it. All statements for it are made in reference to Potara fusion.

I would expect that he would, though I can't really be sure. It is implied through the old Kaioushin's dialogue, that the strongest Potara combination is one of two rivals, Goku and Vegeta. Vegetto is also called the strongest combination, or that Goku and Vegeta are the strongests combination...

@SIAD Yup.

Nah, Hitrule is MY dupe.