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Damn, that looks good.

Gohan doesn't know how strong Vegeta is.

Oh ok, yeah. But no one knew Vegeta was a SSJ2. Gohan and Goku's dialogue both seems to suggest they had no idea Vegeta had that level of power.

It's not Vegeta filling up the meter, it's Goku. Vegeta contributes nothing to the meter.

How do you think Goku got to King Kai in the first place?

He could sense King Kai from the same distance just well, why on Earth wouldn't he be able to sense SPC of all people? It's clear Gohan was a Super Saiyan against Dabura and Buu, he also was a Super Saiyan for his Z-Sword time as well. Why Gohan wasn't a SSJ2? We can only speculate. It's...

Yeah, if he’s absorbing power levels with an average of 5 and he got that strong with 5 million people that’s only 25m power level.

Goku seems to do about the same against Murasaki. He's only dealing with 2 at a time. Like, show me what feat you think Goku can't pull off on the Ginyu Force.

That's what I'm thinking. Although, how many Ginyu Force would it take for Goku? I think he could get through the Ginyu Force in a similar manner as he did Murasaki, don't you?

Jackie can beat 5 Krillins now? He should be around Giran level then? I think I saw a quote in the anime where Murasaki was giving Silver some respect, that might be a factor here.

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It's exactly in line with the OG KHH amp.

Yeah, ki sensing straight up gets turned off.

Ninja Murasaki is a martial arts expert who thinks afterimage is a super advanced technique. So it is. Yeah, it's a FP Kamehameha. That's what happens when you land a FP Kamehameha.

Agreed

Yeah, making Future 17 = Future 18 equals is a viable option to help bring down that number. There's a few things you can do, it all depends on what you prioritize.

I’m not sure about that one, it might work more like genki

I'd love for you to find those 22nd Budokai numbers you made. They looked pretty damn perfect. I feel like I could slap them onto this and be done with it. There's a few tweaks I need to make. But I've come to terms on a lot of issues. Looking pretty damn good don't you think?

The issue is Popo specifically references Goku's impressive strength. So it seems to be more of a skill issue than a power/speed thing. So that's why I'm ok with Goku rivaling Popo here and Popo's ease of avoiding Goku has some skill based merit to it. Also, Cell does a similar thing to Goku I...

Still working on it. My last one I was working on had Wind Chop at 90, which allowed me to have Post Korin Goku = Oozaru Goku. Check em out... Yamcha 60 Bacterian 70 Jackie Chun 75 Colonel Silver 75 Krillin 85 Jackie Chun 90 Ninja Murasaki 90 Giran 100 Krillin 120 Jackie Chun 120 Goku 135...