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Damn, Kaioshins truly are trash.

How trashy? Are they rivaling SSJ Gohan at least?

Could be. So are we really going with the idea that Dabura can kick all of their asses?

In the anime. Dai Kaioshin uses some super cool "Cuts your opponents to shreds" type of attack that seems very special. Dai Kaioshin clearly senses just how powerful Buff Buu is and thinks his attack can take him out and is only surprised by his regeneration. The Kaioshin Past anime adaption...

Because Dai Kaioshin's attack was a legit threat to him.

Why would Kid Buu absorb South Kaioshin?

My ki amps are accurate to the narrative. I don't think I'm nerfing many places. I think you nerf as soon as big numbers make you uncomfortable. If you are limiting something to account for another portion of the story, that's not necessarily nerfing. You are providing accurate gap assessments...

Because Freeza's final form transformation is tremendously more epic than his 3rd Form transformation. Lol. This should be default. His 2nd Form transformation was dramatic, it should be the second biggest transformation. His 3rd Form was the least impressive and only warrants a 1.5x boost or...

It's not that he's doing it at random. He's a minimalist numerically, but he's a bloater narratively. There's a huge disconnect between his numbers and his actual story. He doesn't seem to realize it. They are way more massive than 99% of the fandom thinks. The fandom constanly nerfs feats...

Yeah, so that's weird. So are we going with SSJ Gohan > All Kaioshins?

I am talking about initial power. Sure, the overall power is there, but why wouldn't the initial power be there too? Perfect Cell's transformation was tremendously epic. His initial power-up should be larger than Imperfect Cell to Semi-Perfect Cell as well. That's exactly what I did. What are...

I don't think I have ever bloated anything honestly. The fandom gravitates towards nerfing constantly. Nothing in Toriyama's story telling is aimed at nerfing, he's the bloater, not me. If you think Toriyama is writing a minimalist narrative, you read it wrong. You literally have the same...

Freeza's final form transformation is 10x more epic than his 2nd form transformation. It takes longer, his aura is way bigger, his smoke cloud is bigger. It's a completely more devastating effect all around. Why would it be smaller? The limited evidence we have suggests it is more grand, not...

Yeah? I don't see how there's any other way besides that? Freeza is literal chump change. Freeza 350 Mecha Freeza 400 Trunks 600 Yardrat Goku 750 Sick Goku 1,000 Piccolo 1,250 Androids Goku 1,500 This is literally like, moderate spacing, zero bloat lol

How many Lords of Lords have tried to pull it after Kid Buu killed them all?

Nope. And Part 1 is solid gold. It's a great fun journey that slowly turns into the epic series we all love. Definitely looking forward to it. Just catching up on some work now, I got something big coming down the pipeline in a few months.

Oh this is good. I'm planning on doing a DB refresh ever since I adopted a lower Kamehameha starting point. This should be interesting! I've adopted the Great Ape Fist = Oozaru Goku logic as well, which completely changes how DB scaling is done as well.

Garbage tier. He was weak and fused with a witch. Why would they need to?

Neither do I. But I also don't nerf mine either. What I'm asking you to do is to rationally explain to me why Freeza's final transformation should be much smaller than his first one. Show me the evidence of why it should be smaller.

Why? 2nd Form Freeza is double 1st Form Freeza and True Form Freeza's transformation is tremendously more epic. Sure, why can't this be the case? Freeza's final form transformation is more on par with Perfect Cell's massive transformation in terms of epicness. 1.5x is indeed fine, but I think...