21st TB Initial Krillin vs...

[Hector]

Initial Krillin is the level of power he showed before concentrating to track Roshi's movements.

1. Initial Krillin vs Yamcha
When Yamcha went full power (wolf fang fist), Roshi had to use some effort to dodge him. Krillin on the other hand couldn't see Roshi at all. Does that mean Initial Krillin < Yamcha?

2. Initial Krillin vs Giran
Krillin was unimpressed by Giran's power whereas he was WTFed when Roshi first hit him. However, for some reason, most people place Giran above Initial Krillin in power levels. Why? Would Krillin be unimpressed by someone he wouldn't be able to beat with his initial level of effort?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Wolf-Fang-Hame-Hame-Ha Yamcha could be like a special-move? Maybe?

 

[Animelover5487]

Wolf-Fang-Hame-Hame-Ha Yamcha could be like a special-move? Maybe?

Personally I don't even include it on my power level lists when I used to do them, it's not even a ki technique

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Personally I don't even include it on my power level lists when I used to do them, it's not even a ki technique

But @Warmmedown made him stronger…or so it seemed.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Or did it?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I can’t remember I think.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

WFF Yamcha should beat Kuririn up a bit, but after it wears down Kuririn should beat him.

Initial Kuririn isn’t like some suppressed or base Kuririn, it’s Kuririn with a serious nerf. If you go fight someone unfocused, you’re gonna struggle unless your opponent is really wimpy.

 

[Hector]

Wolf-Fang-Hame-Hame-Ha Yamcha could be like a special-move? Maybe?

Do you treat it as a pseudo-kaioken?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Do you treat it as a pseudo-kaioken?

Maaaaaaybe.

 

[Hector]

Maaaaaaybe.

I think Wolf Fang is more of a fighting style (like Kung Fu) rather than a power boost. But if you disagree, show me how that works on paper.

BODB Yamcha:
-wolf fang:
Goku (hungry):
Goku (full power):

21ST TB Yamcha:
-wolf fang:
Krillin (initial):
Krillin (focused):

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I don’t really know, if you thought it was a power-up, what’d you do?

 

[Warmmedown]

Tenderises him with the WFF with mini kamehamehas coming from his fingers and then cooks him with the full KHH
Yamcha becomes a roasted chestnut salesman (he didn't know his own power was so dangerous), first customer is Goku. Krillin is on the front cover of the chestnut packaging, but after a year the marketing team tell Yamcha that Krillin is too small so they replace his image with the Orin Temple bully, sales go up 10x.

RIP, sorry Krillin. You can't question the WFHH.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Krillin is on the front cover of the chestnut packaging

I can see this being the cover for some-reason:

Spoiler

 

[SSJ2]

Initial Krillin would destroy Yamcha. Krillin actually made Roshi go on the defensive from the get go, forcing him to block his attack as he was unable to dodge. Roshi treated Yamcha like a joke. He was easily able to dodge the WFF and then swiftly knocked him put with wind. Krillin was so far beyond this level that it never crossed Roshi's mind to try this.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Come to think of it, Jackie did praise Kuririn for making him use his hands. Yamcha lost without being touched.

Still, Jackie respected the WFF and Kuririn was a bit weaker than Jackie. I can see Yamcha landing a punch, even if it doesn’t hurt Kuririn.

 

[SSJ2]

Giran is a tougher one to judge. He clashed with Goku (with tail) and wasn't one shotted. Initial Krillin made Roshi block his attack, but Krillin should be much weaker than Goku before focusing up.

 

[Yoshi]

Yeah, I think Jackie Chun’s matches in the 21st prove:

Goku > Krillin > Yamcha

Giran wins against Krillin with high difficulty, however.

 

[Animelover5487]

Yeah, I think Jackie Chun’s matches in the 21st prove:

Goku > Krillin > Yamcha

Giran wins against Krillin with high difficulty, however.

Giran would only win with his gum, in raw strength Kuririn is definitely stronger.


Goku (BODB) = 10

Ranfan = 11

Bacterian = 12.5

Yamcha = 15

Giran = 18

Kuririn = 22.5

Goku (21st TB, Initial) = 24

Nam = 28

Goku (Tailed) = 30

Jackie Chun = 30

@GreatSaiyaman123: Do you agree with these numbers?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Giran would only win with his gum, in raw strength Kuririn is definitely stronger.


Goku (BODB) = 10

Ranfan = 11

Bacterian = 12.5

Yamcha = 15

Giran = 18

Kuririn = 22.5

Goku (21st TB, Initial) = 24

Nam = 28

Goku (Tailed) = 30

Jackie Chun = 30

@GreatSaiyaman123: Do you agree with these numbers?

Looks good to me. I don’t think Ranfan and Bacterian have to be > BoDB Goku so I have bigger gaps, but this is good too.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Muten-Roshi-sama thought they couldn’t win the tournament IIRC, so is it safe to say most of the final 8 could win?