A Good Boo vs Vegeta Ssj2 Comparison

[FutureProtagonist]

Your posts have turned into meaningless non-sequiturs. I suggest you turn off your computer and sober up.

 

[kriss-]

Like I said, I have no idea what you're arguing. I have no idea what Gotenks has to do with Vegeta, Gohan and Goku beating Fat Boo, I just do not know.

Goku says he left it up to the younger generation to win 'one way or another'. If they were stronger from the fusion it would debunk it. Goku calling Boo's Chi calls it a lie.

It's that easy.

 

[kriss-]

Your posts have turned into meaningless non-sequiturs. I suggest you turn off your computer and sober up.

Please make an attempt at debunking Goku calling Boo's Chi a lie.

 

[FutureProtagonist]

You're going to have to post the quote. I have no idea where you're getting it.

Please make an attempt at debunking Goku calling Boo's Chi a lie.

What does that have to do with anything? Goku's saying that Boo might even be stronger than the one that fought him. That's what that means.

 

[kriss-]

You're going to have to post the quote. I have no idea where you're getting it.

Please make an attempt at debunking Goku calling Boo's Chi a lie.

What does that have to do with anything? Goku's saying that Boo might even be stronger than the one that fought him. That's what that means.

You're right, I am drunk. I'll get back to this tomorrow.

Don't think this debate is over with.

 

[Pyro]

At least you're not so drunk you persist in nonsense beyond the point of reason.

 

[kriss-]

At least you're not so drunk you persist in nonsense beyond the point of reason.

Everything I've said is not beyond the point of reason; hence why I'll get back to it tomorrow.

 

[Pyro]

At least you're not so drunk you persist in nonsense beyond the point of reason.

Everything I've said is not beyond the point of reason; hence why I'll get back to it tomorrow.

It was more a compliment to your ability to call it quits until you sober up.

 

[kriss-]

At least you're not so drunk you persist in nonsense beyond the point of reason.

Everything I've said is not beyond the point of reason; hence why I'll get back to it tomorrow.

It was more a compliment to your ability to call it quits until you sober up.

So I don't sound like an idiot. Some people look up to me, I don't want to let them down.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

After 10 pages, tosh will say Goku is stronger than Bootenks.

 

[kriss-]

After 10 pages, tosh will say Goku is stronger than Bootenks.

Incorrect, I challenge you to link to a page where I said that.

How many pages a debate goes on for doesn't dictate what's the correct opinion.

 

[Ryuzaki]

Beerus suppressed himself to 1/10th of his power and got beat up from Raging Vegeta, but didn't increase it because it wasn't necessary. Same thing with Goku Ssj3 vs Fat Boo. Vegeta even makes the comment that Goku & Kid Boos Chi is far larger then it was when Goku fought Fat Boo.

Further-more, Goku had no reason to stomp Fat Boo. He didn't believe he could, but he still wanted to leave it up to the younger generation to manage something, one way or another.

1)Funny, when he got a bit more serious, he blocked Vegeta's Garlic Gun without any injury and took him out in one blow. It's arguably at this time that he was at 10 % instead of the time that he was being "beaten up", which make more sense if you ask me.

2)Goku doesn't need to hold back 90 % of his power, though. He doesn't need to hold back beyond 50 % of his power, which should still be more than enough to completely smack a SSJ2. Unless of course, you're arguing that the power used by Goku as SSJ3 isn't much higher than Majin Vegeta's, which is once again, very unlikely. Especially when it's clearly depicted as far above SSJ2.

3)We have no proof that Vegeta really got the chance to sense SSJ3 Goku.

 

[Papasmurf]

Vegeta was shocked by Goku's SSJ3 transformation. Even though we know he saw the form in the afterlife, he likely didn't sense it or there'd be no need to be shocked.

 

[Lightsworn]

I follow the theory that Mr. Boo is as strong as Initial Fat Boo. So I have Vegeta much stronger.

 

[kriss-]

Seeing things from the afterlife but being in-able to sense them, causes a major contradiction to me. The only way for Vegeta to 'see', is to 'sense'.

 

[Ryuzaki]

Seeing things from the afterlife but being in-able to sense them, causes a major contradiction to me. The only way for Vegeta to 'see', is to 'sense'.

In either case, Goku doesn't need to hold back any strength beyond 50 %, which should still put him noticeably above the SSJ2-tier.

As such, putting the SSJ2-tier above Good Boo isn't possible to me, especially when you know how Good Boo fared against Kid Boo compared to Vegeta. And his performance is clearly not only due to regeneration, which make up for his poor durability.

 

[p123]

This has been interesting to watch. Tosh seems to have been completely broken by Kenshi and Co. And then being unable to admit any sort of defeat he feels the need to say he will debunk anything and that he's a great debater on this issue. Lol. Basically he's saying he will go against logic no matter what and he is trying to pump up his confidence, yet he knows how bad he is looking and the anger at his idiocy is seeping through.

A rather enjoyable thread for me, Tosh your inability to ever be wrong is pretty awesome man, I don't think you've ever been wrong at anything in all these years debating. Sounds like an issue man.

 

[kriss-]

Seeing things from the afterlife but being in-able to sense them, causes a major contradiction to me. The only way for Vegeta to 'see', is to 'sense'.

In either case, Goku doesn't need to hold back any strength beyond 50 %, which should still put him noticeably above the SSJ2-tier.

As such, putting the SSJ2-tier above Good Boo isn't possible to me, especially when you know how Good Boo fared against Kid Boo compared to Vegeta. And his performance is clearly not only due to regeneration, which make up for his poor durability.

Regeneration had definitely been a strong factor in Boo's fight against Kid Boo. Had it been taken out of the equation, Good Boo would of been killed, then people would be arguing the notion that Vegeta is stronger than Good Boo.

 

[kriss-]

Beerus suppressed himself to 1/10th of his power and got beat up from Raging Vegeta, but didn't increase it because it wasn't necessary. Same thing with Goku Ssj3 vs Fat Boo. Vegeta even makes the comment that Goku & Kid Boos Chi is far larger then it was when Goku fought Fat Boo.

Further-more, Goku had no reason to stomp Fat Boo. He didn't believe he could, but he still wanted to leave it up to the younger generation to manage something, one way or another.

1)Funny, when he got a bit more serious, he blocked Vegeta's Garlic Gun without any injury and took him out in one blow. It's arguably at this time that he was at 10 % instead of the time that he was being "beaten up", which make more sense if you ask me.

2)Goku doesn't need to hold back 90 % of his power, though. He doesn't need to hold back beyond 50 % of his power, which should still be more than enough to completely smack a SSJ2. Unless of course, you're arguing that the power used by Goku as SSJ3 isn't much higher than Majin Vegeta's, which is once again, very unlikely. Especially when it's clearly depicted as far above SSJ2.

3)We have no proof that Vegeta really got the chance to sense SSJ3 Goku.

1) I'm not sure what you said here.

2) I used the fight as an example. Goku may have only been at 50% and the fight played out the way it did -with Fat Boo being merely 2.5 Teen Gohan, this scaling works rather fine.

3) Evidence supports the notion that he 'sensed' what was happening on Earth. So it really causes a contradiction to believe Vegeta could 'sense' what was going on and not 'sense the actual battle powers involved.

 

[Pyro]

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