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No. Sidra was implied to be very weak compared to the likes of Beerus.
 

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"indecisive" and "hardly able to destroy anything"

hmmm...

I wouldn't take it to mean he's low though. Could just mean he's more good than the others, since it also says he's indecisive.
 

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Beerus said in the manga that if Goku and Vegeta were in another universe they may be worthy GoD candidates. That pretty much confirms that they aren't.
 

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Animelover5487 said:
Beerus said in the manga that if Goku and Vegeta were in another universe they may be worthy GoD candidates. That pretty much confirms that they aren't.
Oh yeah. I completely forgot about that. That settles it then.
 

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But also wouldn't that mean they'd have surpassed some of them by now? That doesn't seem to be the case here, though. Maybe they got retconed again.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
But also wouldn't that mean they'd have surpassed some of them by now? That doesn't seem to be the case here, though. Maybe they got retconed again.

The Hakaishins from another universes are yet to be introduce so I don't see any retcon yet.
 

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Fearless 3:16 said:
Fantastische Hure said:
But also wouldn't that mean they'd have surpassed some of them by now? That doesn't seem to be the case here, though. Maybe they got retconed again.

The Hakaishins from another universes are yet to be introduce so I don't see any retcon yet.
They have all been introduced.
 

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I mean in the manga. Also the fact that there's a mortal from another universe who is stronger than its Hakaishin who happens to be stronger than Beerus.

Episode: 93
Time: 04:21-04:51
Context: Goku ask Whis about their chances of winning and also Whis reveals a mortal that is stronger than a God of Destruction
Goku: "Whis san. Do you think our Universe 7 is sure to easily win?"
Whis: "Who knows? I don't know that much about the other universes. However, there is a universe where lives a mortal even a God of Destruction can't defeat. That God of Destruction happens to be stronger than Beerus sama."
Beerus: "Don't go saying that. I only lost once at an arm wrestling match!"
 

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Fearless 3:16 said:
I mean in the manga. Also the fact that there's a mortal from another universe who is stronger than its Hakaishin who happens to be stronger than Beerus.

Episode: 93
Time: 04:21-04:51
Context: Goku ask Whis about their chances of winning and also Whis reveals a mortal that is stronger than a God of Destruction
Goku: "Whis san. Do you think our Universe 7 is sure to easily win?"
Whis: "Who knows? I don't know that much about the other universes. However, there is a universe where lives a mortal even a God of Destruction can't defeat. That God of Destruction happens to be stronger than Beerus sama."
Beerus: "Don't go saying that. I only lost once at an arm wrestling match!"
So only that mortal > God of Destruction

And why are they all lumped together in that quote?
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
Fearless 3:16 said:
I mean in the manga. Also the fact that there's a mortal from another universe who is stronger than its Hakaishin who happens to be stronger than Beerus.

Episode: 93
Time: 04:21-04:51
Context: Goku ask Whis about their chances of winning and also Whis reveals a mortal that is stronger than a God of Destruction
Goku: "Whis san. Do you think our Universe 7 is sure to easily win?"
Whis: "Who knows? I don't know that much about the other universes. However, there is a universe where lives a mortal even a God of Destruction can't defeat. That God of Destruction happens to be stronger than Beerus sama."
Beerus: "Don't go saying that. I only lost once at an arm wrestling match!"
So only that mortal > God of Destruction

And why are they all lumped together in that quote?
What do you mean?
 

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Fearless 3:16 said:
Fantastische Hure said:
Fearless 3:16 said:
I mean in the manga. Also the fact that there's a mortal from another universe who is stronger than its Hakaishin who happens to be stronger than Beerus.

Episode: 93
Time: 04:21-04:51
Context: Goku ask Whis about their chances of winning and also Whis reveals a mortal that is stronger than a God of Destruction
Goku: "Whis san. Do you think our Universe 7 is sure to easily win?"
Whis: "Who knows? I don't know that much about the other universes. However, there is a universe where lives a mortal even a God of Destruction can't defeat. That God of Destruction happens to be stronger than Beerus sama."
Beerus: "Don't go saying that. I only lost once at an arm wrestling match!"
So only that mortal > God of Destruction

And why are they all lumped together in that quote?
What do you mean?
I got it wrong. Makes sense now.
 

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Freeza had trouble with Sidra's energy, but Beerus blew it away like it was a small breeze.
 

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To be fair it was only a small bit of his energy. Sidra even said he could defeat Freeza if he wanted to.
 

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Basically, what Animelover said. Beerus essentially confirmed there's a huge difference between some of the Hakaishin, as does Sidra's general unimpressiveness compared to his peers.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Basically, what Animelover said. Beerus essentially confirmed there's a huge difference between some of the Hakaishin, as does Sidra's general unimpressiveness compared to his peers.
So Goku & Vegeta > some GoDs?
 

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It's hard to say as of yet. I wouldn't say so manga-wise, since Beerus only mentioned Vegeta being worthy as a candidate and not an actual Hakaishin, which is the same boat as Toppo's in. Anime-wise, it's possible Goku could be when factoring in the leaks of him being able to use KKx20 Blue, since I'd probably say Sidra's lacklustre feats should place him no higher than Goku's regular Kaioken Blue, considering how in awe he was at SSB Galu and even seemed somewhat intimidated by Golden Freeza. He's probably not as low as Blue tier, but isn't leagues ahead like the other Hakaishin.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
It's hard to say as of yet. I wouldn't say so manga-wise, since Beerus only mentioned Vegeta being worthy as a candidate and not an actual Hakaishin, which is the same boat as Toppo's in. Anime-wise, it's possible Goku could be when factoring in the leaks of him being able to use KKx20 Blue, since I'd probably say Sidra's lacklustre feats should place him no higher than Goku's regular Kaioken Blue, considering how in awe he was at SSB Galu and even seemed somewhat intimidated by Golden Freeza. He's probably not as low as Blue tier, but isn't leagues ahead like the other Hakaishin.
So he could still punch the fack out of Freeza if he wanted to? :wtf :wtf :wtf
 

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Sidra? I imagine so. He may have been intimidated, but it was likely due to a combination of Freeza's personality and Sidra's lack of confidence. I highly doubt Sidra would still be the Hakaishin of U9 when his Universe features fighters still capable of taking hits from SSB Galu like Bergamo with his ability if he were weaker than SSB Goku.
 

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