Base Goten vs Weighted Kamiccolo

[Animelover5487]

Weighted Kamiccolo was stated to rival 18/17, and I have the kids about on par with 18 based on their fight and the Daizenshuu stating Base Trunks was on par with 18.

Base Trunks ~ 18 >~ Base Goten for me.

 

[Six Trails]

#18: 700
weighted Kamiccolo: 720
Goten: 720
Trunks: 750
#17: 800

Kamiccolo barely wins because he is a better fighter.

 

[Animelover5487]

I have it being:

#18 = 660,000,000

Weighted Kamiccolo = 650,000,000

Goten = 640,000,000

Trunks = 660,000,000

#17 = 700,000,000

I don't think 17 was that much stronger than 18. I think either 17 was just being arrogant when he said no one rivals him or just excluding 18 from the equation due to being a Cyborg like himself.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

base Goten > Piccolo > Mighty mask ~ #18

 

[Six Trails]

Unless Base kids > suppressed SS kids, the Base kids can't be that much higher than #18.

 

[Future Warrior]

I dont see a reason for Base Kids surpassing 18 in Base. Sure, the outfit was holding them back, but 18 wasn't nearly afraid after figuring out that it was actually Goten and Trunks. She seemed confident in herself.

I go by the notion that 18 >= Base Kids.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Piccolo wins due to his namekian brain.

 

[ahill1]

Kamiccolo ( Weighted ) is said to rivals both Androids, so I generally have him at #18's level, maybe a bit stronger or a bit weaker. Goten and Trunks base showed strength on par with #18 according to the Daizenshuu... sure they were on Mighty Mas costume and its contraints, so they might be even stronger than #18 given that the costume was a pain in the ass. But I generally go with the Goten and Trunks being around #18 in base. Goten base is exactly equal to the Android/Cyborg and Trunks base is a bit stronger than that.

Said that, Goten base and Kamiccolo ( Weighted ) had around the same strength. I'd give this to Kamiccolo due to his skills and his experience as a fighter. Kamiccolo ( Weighted ) wins after a hard battle.

 

[Zippy]

base Goten > Piccolo > Mighty mask ~ #18

How is mighty mask ~ 18?
He was loosing.

 

[SSJ2]

base Goten > Piccolo > Mighty mask ~ #18

How is mighty mask ~ 18?
He was loosing.

The kids weren't losing really, they were just so bothered by the costume that it made it near impossible to fight back. Goten was just acting as a deadweight.

 

[SSJ3 Gothic]

I take Piccolo here in a close fight. Better knowledge and skills. I'm sure he could work around a slight disadvantage in power.

 

[Zippy]

base Goten > Piccolo > Mighty mask ~ #18

How is mighty mask ~ 18?
He was loosing.

The kids weren't losing really, they were just so bothered by the costume that it made it near impossible to fight back. Goten was just acting as a deadweight.

Yeah but wouldnt mighty mask mean mighty mask as a whole. Including costume problems?
I mean if you discard the costume it isnt really mighty mask.
If that chain represented only power mighty mask shouldn't have been below goten

 

[SSJ2]

How is mighty mask ~ 18?
He was loosing.

The kids weren't losing really, they were just so bothered by the costume that it made it near impossible to fight back. Goten was just acting as a deadweight.

Yeah but wouldnt mighty mask mean mighty mask as a whole. Including costume problems?
I mean if you discard the costume it isnt really mighty mask.
If that chain represented only power mighty mask shouldn't have been below goten

Ah, okay. I thought you meant only power.

Carry on.

 

[p123]

Yea I would generally put Trunks around 17, maybe a little stronger.

 

[DBZAOTA482]

I think Goten is a little weaker than #18 and Piccolo is definitely a better fighter... so Big Green wins.