Beerus>>>Merged Zamasu

[KyuubiAhri]

KK SSJB Goku with a broken arm was able to give Merged Zamasu a hard time even before he used the KK he was giving Zamasu trouble. Now Beerus is even stronger than KKx10 Goku so Zamasu stands no chance

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah, I think it's a combination of plot hax and the Potara being nerfed now, so MZ could be a decent bit weaker than Beerus.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

Goku's kamehameha overpowered his energy ball and he was able to hurt him with a normal kaioken.Yep definitely not even half of beerus power

 

[Papasmurf]

Which honestly doesn't even make sense since this Goku lost horribly to pre-rage Goku Black and was visibly much weaker than post-Rosat Vegeta, so while I don't take it entirely at face value, it's more than good enough to suggest MZ isn't all that compared to the most fapped guy that's under the angels and above.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

I've seen some spoilers that zamasu's soul is still alive or something.Is that true?

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah, it seems like his immortality survived his body's destruction.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

I hope that we will see him change his ways or something.
This was the best arch in the SUper but the powerscaling ruined it.Merged zamasu should just stand there and tank everything goku and vegeta throw at him.This episode may actually have debunked "rival boost" that we all believed in

 

[Papasmurf]

They really went out of their way to keep Potara irrelevant. Got rid of the permanence and made the time limit even shorter than a normal Fusion Dance fusion when using SSJB, and the boost for both fusions seems to suck so bad they got maybe close to FP Beerus after SSJB Vegetto went all out and MZ turned into a half-blob giant.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

Not even close to beerus's full power.I know that vegito is marginally stronger than merged zamasu but imagine this:
Father son galick gun overpowering vegito.
Or even worse:
Goku's kamehameha overpowering vegito and his KK punch actually having an effect on him.

If toriyama made this episode none of that would have happened.MZ would have tanked everything

 

[Papasmurf]

Merged Zamasu did get stronger when he mutated, and there's the possibility that Goku and Vegeta powered up between the U6 arc and the current arc, which makes the power scaling slightly uncertain even with the lackluster feats. But you're right, with Super's tendency to constantly retcon Beerus to keep him unreachable Vegetto likely hasn't gotten too close, although I'd like to think he's still stronger than KKx10 Goku since they were using the Potara to damage Zamasu more than what they could do separately.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

I dont even think that vegito is stronger than kkx4 goku let alone 10x.It is crazy but still its super logic

 

[Papasmurf]

Well Goku already displayed the Kaioken and then resorted to the Potara hoping to attain a greater power, so that's what the show implies despite Zamasu's retarded feats up to that point.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I think Vegito is stronger than Beerus.

 

[Papasmurf]

Moral of the day: Don't look into power chain logic in this show.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

Moral of the day: Don't look into power chain logic in this show.

easier said that done

 

[xmysticgohanx]

Merged Zamasu (giant) > Vegetto Blue > Merged Zamasu (purple hand) > Kaioken x2 SSJB Goku ~ Merged Zamasu > SSJR Black (post Vegeta) > Hit > Kaioken x10 Goku

Zamasu is more than twice as strong as Hit which should put him at Beerus tier

 

[Diamond Ryan]

SSJR Black (post Vegeta) > Hit > Kaioken x10 Goku

What puts Black over Hit exactly?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

SSJR Black (post Vegeta) > Hit > Kaioken x10 Goku

What puts Black over Hit exactly?

Producer's statement.

 

[Future Warrior]

To be honest I think the only way for this to make sense is if Goku and Vegeta got way stronger than they did in the U6 arc, even stronger than KKx10 Goku (U6).