Beerus using 10% of his power against Vegeta...

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Maybe for someone who sleeps for so long, it takes him a while to get to peak performance after waking up and 10% normal Beerus >>>> 10% sleepy Beerus.
 

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It was said to be 10%?
 

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Yeah. In-fact I think he said it's been a long time he had to use over 10% of his power. Might be wrong though, but yeah definitely at-least around 10%.
 

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Beerus > Ultra Instinct Galu though :king
 

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SSJ Vegeta < 10 % Beerus < SSJ God Goku <<<< SSJ Blue Goku << SSJB KKX10 Goku <<< KK20 Goku <<<<< Ultra Instinct Goku < Boris
 

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Maybe Beerus has 4 twins just like Murasaki and theyve been replacing each other every time one of them is surpassed :troll :troll
 

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There's no explanation of it other than retcon or inconsistency from Toei's part who are known for this kind of stuff.
 

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Rageta at the start of Super is apparently stronger then ToP Blue Goku & Vegeta :p

Probably a few levels of KK Blue Goku too
 

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Fearless 3:16 said:
There's no explanation of it other than retcon or inconsistency from Toei's part who are known for this kind of stuff.

Yes, but retcons in the OG manga are preposterous!!
 

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SuperSaiyan2 said:
Fearless 3:16 said:
There's no explanation of it other than retcon or inconsistency from Toei's part who are known for this kind of stuff.

Yes, but retcons in the OG manga are preposterous!!
You're comparing Toriyama's product to Toei's product, it's not comparable. :punk

What comparable is Toriyama's Super product to OG manga where consistency is 9/10.
 

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Toriyama's the one planning out Super, a move that's preposterous since the guy has admitted on numerous occasions to being bad at forethought even in a time when he was good at other stuff. Never mind now when he's well past his prime. He's not exempt from the bad story decisions screwing the new show up.

I'd also like to add that retcons aren't by default bad, Goku being an alien with Roshi being completely aware of the fact before he even met him, is a prime example. Super's just awful at doing it.
 

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You are one delusional freak. @Fearless Spammer
 

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Beerus also said he used his 100% against SSJ God Goku, so i think that, against Vegeta, he had meant 10% of that fake
max.
 

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withheldforprivacy said:
Beerus also said he used his 100% against SSJ God Goku, so i think that, against Vegeta, he had meant 10% of that fake
max.

Yup. Beerus purposely lied during that match. Probably to spur on Goku and Vegeta's growth by letting them think reaching him was an actually attainable goal rather than something far off in the distance due to Beerus's power being in another dimension.
 
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