Ben Beckman vs current Luffy

[SSJ2]

Ben Beckman is said to be comparable to Shanks. Can current Luffy win?

 

[Future Warrior]

Odds wise Benn wins.

 

[SSJ2]

Only thing that makes me question it is Kizaru seemed to mess around when he was threatened at Marineford, and ended up attacking the submarine despite being told not to.

 

[Future Warrior]

Kizaru would also beat Luffy.

 

[SSJ2]

Maybe, though I really doubt he'd be in a position to fuck around. Haoshoku infused snakeman would fuck him up.

 

[Future Warrior]

What makes you think that?

 

[SSJ2]

Even Base Luffy was knocking Kaido around before. G4 with Haoshoku must be even stronger, and Kaido got pummeled at the end of last chapter. Kizaru wouldn't be able to handle his attacks better than Kaido can.

 

[Future Warrior]

Base Kaido looked barely damaged by that attack though?

 

[SSJ2]

He hasn't been damaged by anything. But the fact that he can be pummeled like that speaks volumes I think. Kaido also has the highest level of durability in the series.

 

[Future Warrior]

Bro, he gets pummeled all the time even before Luffy learned Hao coating.

Obviously Kaido is way more durable than Kizaru, but I think saying Kizaru would get fucked up by 1 snakeman punch is way overblown.

 

[SSJ2]

I mean yeah, but it's not like he's tanking these attacks. The Haoshoku infused attacks have definitely been wearing him down and causing him physical pain. Remember Luffy asked why Kaido was dodging his attacks even before he learned Haoshoku coating, which shows that he could already hurt him. With the huge boost of Haoshoku + gear 4, I can't see any admiral having an easy time with it.

 

[Future Warrior]

Yeah I definitely don't think it would be easy remotely. That's not what I was trying to imply.

 

[SSJ2]

I'm not saying that Luffy would fuck up Kizaru permanently with snake man. I'm just saying it would be comparable to how Kaido has taken his attacks, but worse. Do you think Kizaru would shoot Law's submarine if Haoshoku coated snakeman was about to rifle him in the face? I can't see it.

 

[Future Warrior]

Answer my thread about Zoan awakening.

 

[Future Warrior]

Do you think Kizaru would shoot Law's submarine if Haoshoku coated snakeman was about to rifle him in the face? I can't see it.

I think Benn Beckman took his attention away and got careless iirc. It's different if he had constantly had a gun pointed at him the whole time.

I'd argue Snakeman + CoC would fuck Kizaru up if he doesn't apply Haki to the area he gets hit, sure. Even Pre-TS Gear 2 Luffy could cause pain to Blackbeard and Magellan.