Bills vs Vegetto-Blue

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Fearless Boo said:
Nah, Vegito is stronger until Super disproves it.
It's the other-way round. If people could leave their fanboyism for Vegetto behind for a second, they'd know that Bills is the one that needs to be surpassed, not Vegetto. Bills is still the mile-stone.
 

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Toriyama: I don't care about consistency. Don't analyze this movie. :troll :troll

Beerus definitely got stronger when he felt like it :elmo
 

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Fearless Boo said:
Nah, Vegito is stronger until Super disproves it.
Fallacy. :et

I won't watch the latest episode. No fucking way. Everyone told me the Black arc was so kewl, so I watched one episode and it was garbage. :cry
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
Fearless Boo said:
Nah, Vegito is stronger until Super disproves it.
It's the other-way round. If people could leave their fanboyism for Vegetto behind for a second, they'd know that Bills is the one that needs to be surpassed, not Vegetto. Bills is still the mile-stone.
Until Super disproves it. It's not fanboyism it's a logic, besides Beerus is still the strongest non fused character in the series besides Whis and Vados.
 

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Fearless Boo said:
Nah, Vegito is stronger until Super disproves it.
Fallacy. :et

I won't watch the latest episode. No fucking way. Everyone told me the Black arc was so kewl, so I watched one episode and it was garbage. :cry
Last episode was EPIC, though. :trump :trump :trump
 

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Well that episode was just the villain showing himself dragged out for 20 minutes... :wat :wat

If you want to criticize the show, there's like 19 episodes after that lol, you could just watch 10 of them
 

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Fearless Boo said:
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Fearless Boo said:
Nah, Vegito is stronger until Super disproves it.
It's the other-way round. If people could leave their fanboyism for Vegetto behind for a second, they'd know that Bills is the one that needs to be surpassed, not Vegetto. Bills is still the mile-stone.
Until Super disproves it. It's not fanboyism it's a logic, besides Beerus is still the strongest non fused character in the series besides Whis and Vados.
How is it logic? We don't know how far above Goku Bills is, so there's no point in trying to make-up a gap between them now, just to say Vegetto is higher than Bills. Bills could be million times above Goku for all they care.
 

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[youtube]ppokXbT3v00[/youtube]

The Vegetto fight if you at least want to see what FH is talking about :elmo
 

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It's hard for me to sit through just one episode. Two minutes feel like twenty when watching that tripe. All of that bullshit filler (mostly food stuff) and consistently bad visuals. I've put up with this for about 30 episodes, and my tolerance is gone.
 

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Bill Clinton said:
It's hard for me to sit through just one episode. Two minutes feel like twenty when watching that tripe. All of that bullshit filler (mostly food stuff) and consistently bad visuals. I've put up with this for about 30 episodes, and my tolerance is gone.
You won't be disappointed with the visuals in this episode, I tell you. Breath-Taking
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
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Fantastische Hure said:
It's the other-way round. If people could leave their fanboyism for Vegetto behind for a second, they'd know that Bills is the one that needs to be surpassed, not Vegetto. Bills is still the mile-stone.
Until Super disproves it. It's not fanboyism it's a logic, besides Beerus is still the strongest non fused character in the series besides Whis and Vados.
How is it logic? We don't know how far above Goku Bills is, so there's no point in trying to make-up a gap between them now, just to say Vegetto is higher than Bills. Bills could be million times above Goku for all they care.
Vegito is logically stronger than Beerus based on the fact that Potara multiplies both Goku and Vegeta's power. I'm not denying th possibility that Beerus might be stronger than Vegito but until now Vegito is logically stronger than Beerus UNTIL SUPER DISPROVES IT.
 

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DBZ's always had awful pacing. They dragged out a 2-volume fight between Goku and Freeza to around 20 episodes or something, A scene that took one panel in the manga (Gohan kicking 18 out of Cell and forcing him to detonate himself) took almost a whole episode in the anime, and the Kid Boo and Gohan Boo fights literally took more episodes than they took chapters in the original manga.

the current arc actually had a good plot for the most part and some planning and intrigue building up to the identity of the true villain, and I think it's unfair to just trash it in one episode because of an issue that's existed with the franchise as a whole since the Z days.
 

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Fearless Boo said:
Fantastische Hure said:
Fearless Boo said:
Until Super disproves it. It's not fanboyism it's a logic, besides Beerus is still the strongest non fused character in the series besides Whis and Vados.
How is it logic? We don't know how far above Goku Bills is, so there's no point in trying to make-up a gap between them now, just to say Vegetto is higher than Bills. Bills could be million times above Goku for all they care.
Vegito is logically stronger than Beerus based on the fact that Potara multiplies both Goku and Vegeta's power. I'm not denying th possibility that Beerus might be stronger than Vegito but until now Vegito is logically stronger than Beerus UNTIL SUPER DISPROVES IT.
No, he is not logically stronger.

Kaio-Ken x10 also multiplied Goku's power yet he was still below Bills. You already made-up your mind about Goku and Bills gap. In other words you jumped to conclusions based on your "logic system", which is wrong. You make-up the conclusions after you've seen all the facts and so-far Bills is still the goal for Goku and Vegeta.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
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How is it logic? We don't know how far above Goku Bills is, so there's no point in trying to make-up a gap between them now, just to say Vegetto is higher than Bills. Bills could be million times above Goku for all they care.
Vegito is logically stronger than Beerus based on the fact that Potara multiplies both Goku and Vegeta's power. I'm not denying th possibility that Beerus might be stronger than Vegito but until now Vegito is logically stronger than Beerus UNTIL SUPER DISPROVES IT.
No, he is not logically stronger.

Kaio-Ken x10 also multiplied Goku's power yet he was still below Bills. You already made-up your mind about Goku and Bills gap. In other words you jumped to conclusions based on your "logic system", which is wrong. You make-up the conclusions after you've seen all the facts and so-far Bills is still the goal for Goku and Vegeta.
Goku and Vegeta's goal is to surpass Beerus as individual not as fusion lol.
 

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Fearless Boo said:
Fantastische Hure said:
Fearless Boo said:
Vegito is logically stronger than Beerus based on the fact that Potara multiplies both Goku and Vegeta's power. I'm not denying th possibility that Beerus might be stronger than Vegito but until now Vegito is logically stronger than Beerus UNTIL SUPER DISPROVES IT.
No, he is not logically stronger.

Kaio-Ken x10 also multiplied Goku's power yet he was still below Bills. You already made-up your mind about Goku and Bills gap. In other words you jumped to conclusions based on your "logic system", which is wrong. You make-up the conclusions after you've seen all the facts and so-far Bills is still the goal for Goku and Vegeta.
Goku and Vegeta's goal is to surpass Beerus as individual not as fusion lol.
So? It will still be treated as a huge event by the series, most likely. Like "OMFG I can't believe they've become this powerful", by that alone and the hype (and how that event will be treated), Bills is probably above Vegetto.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
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Fantastische Hure said:
No, he is not logically stronger.

Kaio-Ken x10 also multiplied Goku's power yet he was still below Bills. You already made-up your mind about Goku and Bills gap. In other words you jumped to conclusions based on your "logic system", which is wrong. You make-up the conclusions after you've seen all the facts and so-far Bills is still the goal for Goku and Vegeta.
Goku and Vegeta's goal is to surpass Beerus as individual not as fusion lol.
So? It will still be treated as a huge event by the series, most likely. Like "OMFG I can't believe they've become this powerful", by that alone and the hype, Bills is probably above Vegetto.
Trunks commented Vegito's power to be unbelievable. Besides, none know how strong is Beerus other than he's a different level.
 

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Fearless Boo said:
Fantastische Hure said:
Fearless Boo said:
Goku and Vegeta's goal is to surpass Beerus as individual not as fusion lol.
So? It will still be treated as a huge event by the series, most likely. Like "OMFG I can't believe they've become this powerful", by that alone and the hype, Bills is probably above Vegetto.
Trunks commented Vegito's power to be unbelievable. Besides, none know how strong is Beerus other than he's a different level.
Do we know Bills' true power yet? Exactly :trump :trump :trump
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
Fearless Boo said:
Fantastische Hure said:
So? It will still be treated as a huge event by the series, most likely. Like "OMFG I can't believe they've become this powerful", by that alone and the hype, Bills is probably above Vegetto.
Trunks commented Vegito's power to be unbelievable. Besides, none know how strong is Beerus other than he's a different level.
Do we know Bills' true power yet? Exactly :trump :trump :trump
No, but Vegito should be stronger until another contradiction will come later.
 

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