Black, ToP and Moro arcs power levels

[GreatSaiyaman123]

That’s definitely a possibility too. SSJ Goku Black doesn’t have to be > SSJB Vegeta since he could still get a good Zenkai from him. Vegeta probably dealt quite a lot of damage to GB before his power fazed.

I think the U7 Saiyans got quite a lot stronger since SSJ Caulifla has some trouble with Base Freeza, who’s Base Goku level, and this Rosat trip is the perfect moment for a big power up.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

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Universe 6

Goku: 1
~ SSJ: 2.5
~ SSJG: 25
~ SSJB: 37.5

Vegeta: 1
~ SSJ: 2.5
~ SSJB: 37.5
~ SSJB (Power loss): 2.75

Piccolo: 1.5

Botamo: 0.2

Frost: 0.265
~ Assault form: 0.9
~ True form: 1.8

Magetta: 3

Cabba: 0.96
~ SSJ: 2.4

Hit: 2.4
~ Full power: 24

Goku Black Part 1

Goku: 1.2
~ SSJ: 3
~ SSJ2: 3.75
~ SSJ3: 7.5
~ SSJG: 30
~ SSJB: 45

Vegeta: 1.2
~ SSJ2: 12
~ SSJB: 45

Trunks: 1.2
~ SSJ2 (Suppressed): 3.75
~ SSJ2 (Full power): 7.5

Goku Black: 8.25
~ Vs Vegeta: 9
~ SSJ: 11.25
~ Zenkai: 45
~ SSJ Rosé: 60

Zamasu: 3

Goku Black Part 2

Goku: 2
~ SSJG: 50
~ SSJB: 75
~ PSSJB: 125

Vegeta: 2
~ SSJG: 50
~ SSJB: 75

Trunks: 1.2
~ SSJ2: 7.5

Goku Black: 36
~ SSJ: 60

Zamasu: 3
~ Merged: 90
~ Full power: 120

Vegetto: 100
~ Post Senzu: ???
~ SSJB: ???

Tournament of Power

Goku: 2
~ SSJ: 5
~ SSJ2: 6.25
~ SSJ3: 12.5
~ SSJG: 50
~ SSJB: 125
~ Beyond limits: 500
~ UI Sign: 1,250
~ UI: 3,125

Vegeta: 2
~ SSJ: 5
~ SSJ2: 20
~ SSJG: 50
~ SSJB: 125
~ SSJBE: 625

Gohan: 5
~ Super Ultimate: 250

Freeza: 5
~ Golden form: 125

17: 128

Hit: 120
~ Time Cage: 200

Cabba: 0.96
~ SSJ: 2.5

Caulifla: 1.08
~ SSJ: 2.7

Kale: 3
~ LSSJ: 7.5
~ Powered up: 30
~ Further powered up: 60
~ Peak: 75

Kefla: 100
~ SSJ: 250

Dyspo: 25
Toppo: 125

Jiren: 187.5
~ Powered up vs Hit: 250
~ More effort vs Goku and Vegeta: 1,000
~ Powered up vs Sign Goku: 1,250
~ Full power: 2,500
~ Beyond limits: 3,000

Broly

Goku: 2.4
~ SSJ: 6
~ SSJG: 60
~ SSJB: 150

Vegeta: 2.4
~ SSJ: 6
~ SSJG (Suppressed): 30
~ SSJB: 150

Broly: 2.25
~ Full power: 6.75
~ Ikari (Initial): 67.5
~ Ikari (FP): 135
~ SSJ: 3,375
~ LSSJ (Initial): 8,437.5
~ LSSJ (Peak): 37,500

Gogeta: 1,350
~ SSJ: 3,375
~ SSJB: 84,375

Moro Part 1

Goku: 4.8
~ SSJ: 12
~ SSJ2: 15
~ SSJ3: 30
~ SSJG: 120
~ SSJB: 300

Vegeta: 4.8
~ SSJ: 12
~ SSJ2: 48
~ SSJG: 120
~ SSJB: 300
~ SSJBE: 1,500

Moro: 45
~ Young: 90
~ Namek absorbed: 270

Dai Kaioshin: 120

Moro Part 2

Android 18: 300
Android 17: 320
Piccolo: 450
Gohan: 500

Saganbo: 1,000
~ Full power: 1,500
~ Peak: 2,250

Goku: 144
~ SSJB: 9,000
~ UI Sign (Suppressed): 30,000
~ Full power: 45,000
~ Beyond limits: 54,000
~ UI: 270,000

Vegeta: 160
~ SSJB: 10,000
~ SSJBE: 50,000

Moro: 30,000
~ Powered up: 60,000
~ 7-3 absorbed: 100,000
~ Full power: 135,000
~ UI: 270,000

Merus: 270,000

 

[Pyro]

I thought you were against Blue (Moro) > Jiren?

 

[SIAD]

Take 234907

Universe 6

Goku: 1
~ SSJ: 2.5
~ SSJG: 25
~ SSJB: 37.5

Vegeta: 1
~ SSJ: 2.5
~ SSJB: 37.5
~ SSJB (Power loss): 2.75

Piccolo: 1.5

Botamo: 0.2

Frost: 0.265
~ Assault form: 0.9
~ True form: 1.8

Magetta: 3

Cabba: 0.96
~ SSJ: 2.4

Hit: 2.4
~ Full power: 24

Goku Black Part 1

Goku: 1.2
~ SSJ: 3
~ SSJ2: 3.75
~ SSJ3: 7.5
~ SSJG: 30
~ SSJB: 45

Vegeta: 1.2
~ SSJ2: 12
~ SSJB: 45

Trunks: 1.2
~ SSJ2 (Suppressed): 3.75
~ SSJ2 (Full power): 7.5

Goku Black: 8.25
~ Vs Vegeta: 9
~ SSJ: 11.25
~ Zenkai: 45
~ SSJ Rosé: 60

Zamasu: 3

Goku Black Part 2

Goku: 2
~ SSJG: 50
~ SSJB: 75
~ PSSJB: 125

Vegeta: 2
~ SSJG: 50
~ SSJB: 75

Trunks: 1.2
~ SSJ2: 7.5

Goku Black: 36
~ SSJ: 60

Zamasu: 3
~ Merged: 90
~ Full power: 120

Vegetto: 100
~ Post Senzu: ???
~ SSJB: ???

Tournament of Power

Goku: 2
~ SSJ: 5
~ SSJ2: 6.25
~ SSJ3: 12.5
~ SSJG: 50
~ SSJB: 125
~ Beyond limits: 500
~ UI Sign: 1,250
~ UI: 3,125

Vegeta: 2
~ SSJ: 5
~ SSJ2: 20
~ SSJG: 50
~ SSJB: 125
~ SSJBE: 625

Gohan: 5
~ Super Ultimate: 250

Freeza: 5
~ Golden form: 125

17: 128

Hit: 120
~ Time Cage: 200

Cabba: 0.96
~ SSJ: 2.5

Caulifla: 1.08
~ SSJ: 2.7

Kale: 3
~ LSSJ: 7.5
~ Powered up: 30
~ Further powered up: 60
~ Peak: 75

Kefla: 100
~ SSJ: 250

Dyspo: 25
Toppo: 125

Jiren: 187.5
~ Powered up vs Hit: 250
~ More effort vs Goku and Vegeta: 1,000
~ Powered up vs Sign Goku: 1,250
~ Full power: 2,500
~ Beyond limits: 3,000

Broly

Goku: 2.4
~ SSJ: 6
~ SSJG: 60
~ SSJB: 150

Vegeta: 2.4
~ SSJ: 6
~ SSJG (Suppressed): 30
~ SSJB: 150

Broly: 2.25
~ Full power: 6.75
~ Ikari (Initial): 67.5
~ Ikari (FP): 135
~ SSJ: 3,375
~ LSSJ (Initial): 8,437.5
~ LSSJ (Peak): 37,500

Gogeta: 1,350
~ SSJ: 3,375
~ SSJB: 84,375

Moro Part 1

Goku: 4.8
~ SSJ: 12
~ SSJ2: 15
~ SSJ3: 30
~ SSJG: 120
~ SSJB: 300

Vegeta: 4.8
~ SSJ: 12
~ SSJ2: 48
~ SSJG: 120
~ SSJB: 300
~ SSJBE: 1,500

Moro: 45
~ Young: 90
~ Namek absorbed: 270

Dai Kaioshin: 120

Moro Part 2

Android 18: 300
Android 17: 320
Piccolo: 450
Gohan: 500

Saganbo: 1,000
~ Full power: 1,500
~ Peak: 2,250

Goku: 144
~ SSJB: 9,000
~ UI Sign (Suppressed): 30,000
~ Full power: 45,000
~ Beyond limits: 54,000
~ UI: 270,000

Vegeta: 160
~ SSJB: 10,000
~ SSJBE: 50,000

Moro: 30,000
~ Powered up: 60,000
~ 7-3 absorbed: 100,000
~ Full power: 135,000
~ UI: 270,000

Merus: 270,000

It's very interesting, just remember that Vegeta SSJBE (Post Yadart)> UI Sign Goku (Beyond Limits).

Moro (OG73I) (Suppressed) must not be much superior to Moro (FP), therefore surely Moro (FP) far surpassed UI Sign Goku (Beyond Limits). Also Moro (OG73I) (Suppressed) defeated UI Sign Goku (Beyond Limits) with even greater ease than Vegeta SSJBE (Post Yadart).

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I thought you were against Blue (Moro) > Jiren?

I was mostly bothered by Saganbo > Jiren. Blue > Jiren is also pretty fucked up, but I gotta maneuver with that somehow.

Moro (OG73I) (Suppressed) must not be much superior to Moro (FP), therefore surely Moro (FP) far surpassed UI Sign Goku (Beyond Limits). Also Moro (OG73I) (Suppressed) defeated UI Sign Goku (Beyond Limits) with even greater ease than Vegeta SSJBE (Post Yadart).

Moro went from having mild trouble with Vegeta to tanking his blast Perfect Cell vs Super Vegeta style. Looks like he powered up greatly for me. Not sure if that was from eating Seven-Three or he just got serious though.

 

[SIAD]

I was mostly bothered by Saganbo > Jiren. Blue > Jiren is also pretty fucked up, but I gotta maneuver with that somehow.




Moro went from having mild trouble with Vegeta to tanking his blast Perfect Cell vs Super Vegeta style. Looks like he powered up greatly for me. Not sure if that was from eating Seven-Three or he just got serious though.

But it doesn't change that Vegeta SSJBE (Post Yadart)> UI Sign Goku (Beyond Limits).