BoG Goku Vs Gohan

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Let's begin now.

 

[SIAD]

For me the beginning of BoG Gohan, his mystical state was deteriorating and therefore Mystic Gohan had the same power as the power your car with semi unlocked. When Gohan gives his energy to Goku, he was a SSJ. Therefore I have the following string: Goku SSJ3 (BoG) >>>>> Goku / Vegeta SSJ2 (BoG)> = Mystic Gohan (BoG) = Gohan (Semi Potential Unlocked)> Goku SSJ3 (Boo) >> Mr Boo> Goku / Vegeta SSJ (BoG) >> SSJ Gohan (Post Espada Z / BoG / FnF).

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Nothing in the movie directly proves the one or the other side. It depends on how you view Buu Saga. The
main arguments are...

1. Goku was selected to be SSJG.
Counter: SSJG was a stable number independent on the user's previous power, so Goku was selected
because of his experience.

2. Vegeta shat his pants when he heard Goku was beaten.
Counter: Beerus was in Vegeta's head. Also, there is nothing that proves Vegeta had ever really felt
Gotenkses/Gohan's ki.

3. Roshi compared Enraged Vegeta to Goku, not to Gohan.
Counter: Goku was his rival, the one Vegeta had been struggling to surpass, so it's not unreasonable that
he was Roshi's first thought.

 

[Six Trails]

Mystic Gohan had the same power as the power your car with semi unlocked.

...what..

 

[Pakl]

Gohan was intended to be a SSjin

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Goku's likely stronger because he was training while Gohan likely wasn't.

All of the Saiyans looked like shit against Beers, so it's impossible to gauge them in that way.

 

[Pakl]

BoG Goku can't be much stronger than his Boo Arc self

 

[Six Trails]

BoG Goku is probably weaker than Buu arc Goten.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

BoG Goku can't be much stronger than his Boo Arc self

Where's your evidence?

 

[Pakl]

Nothing says he got much stronger..
They maxed out in the Boo Arc as stated by Toriyama.. Why would they get so strong? The movie implies they are not much different than in the Boo Arc as Goten and Trunks look young and the statements from the movie connect to the Boo Arc

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Nothing says they didn't get much stronger. Vegeta's feat destroy your argument.
There's no such thing limits in dbz, they always break it all the time. Toriyama contradicted his statement just like Frieza's strength.
Goten and Trunks being young doesn't change anything.

 

[SIAD]

A good test of increased power to Goku and Vegeta Goku SSJ2 think that someone could fight Kaiosama barred fight, in spite of knowing how powerful it was Goku SSJ3 (Boo). No wonder this increase in power, considering that Goku and Vegeta is training hard.

 

[Pakl]

Nothing says they didn't get much stronger. Vegeta's feat destroy your argument.
There's no such thing limits in dbz, they always break it all the time. Toriyama contradicted his statement just like Frieza's strength.
Goten and Trunks being young doesn't change anything.

Burden of proof on you

What feats? Gohan was just SSjin power and Gtenks was Sjin and even then Vegeta was surprised Beerus spanked him

 

[Southern Gothic]

I go with Goku being stronger. For whatever reason. The story seems to demand it.

Throughout the entire time Beerus is looking for the Super Saiyan God, nobody mentions Gohan. Nobody says, yeah, Goku beat Freeza and is a Super Saiyan, bit his son is way stronger than that and doesn't even need to transform.

Instead Gohan is fodder and gets thrown out with Mr. Boo.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Nothing says they didn't get much stronger. Vegeta's feat destroy your argument.
There's no such thing limits in dbz, they always break it all the time. Toriyama contradicted his statement just like Frieza's strength.
Goten and Trunks being young doesn't change anything.

Burden of proof on you

What feats? Gohan was just SSjin power and Gtenks was Sjin and even then Vegeta was surprised Beerus spanked him

Vegeta outperformed everyone but I'm not using this as my argument.

Gohan was Ssjin or not doesn't change the fact. He's not gonna outperform everyone because of his Mystic power, he'll get destroy by Beerus just like everyone else.

Vegeta being shock does not change the fact, he got destroyed. Its just another incosistent because Vegeta already expected him to get lose.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

I go with Goku being stronger. For whatever reason. The story seems to demand it.

Throughout the entire time Beerus is looking for the Super Saiyan God, nobody mentions Gohan. Nobody says, yeah, Goku beat Freeza and is a Super Saiyan, bit his son is way stronger than that and doesn't even need to transform.

Instead Gohan is fodder and gets thrown out with Mr. Boo.

How about going with Gohan's mystic boost being not permanent for whatever reason? Movies 13, 14 and YS
make more sense that way.

 

[Whipedkillsmiled]

Vegeta getting scared doesn't signify anything someone that strong getting beaten is enough of a surprise on top of that in only two hits meaning with no effort it doesn't matter if Gohan would be stronger than Goku or not it not like hes ahead of him to the point where he can take someone like that down.
Goku preformed better than Gohan is true but Beerus was also pissed against everyone but Goku.
I think with the trail the movie took though I'd say Goku

 

[Pakl]

I go with Goku being stronger. For whatever reason. The story seems to demand it.

Throughout the entire time Beerus is looking for the Super Saiyan God, nobody mentions Gohan. Nobody says, yeah, Goku beat Freeza and is a Super Saiyan, bit his son is way stronger than that and doesn't even need to transform.

Instead Gohan is fodder and gets thrown out with Mr. Boo.

Because Gohan was not intended to be ultimate and SSjin Gotenks seemed the strongest after Goku... Vegeta was surprised about Beerus beating him like he did

Ultimate Gohan >>> BoG SSjin 3 Goku

 

[Pakl]

Nothing says they didn't get much stronger. Vegeta's feat destroy your argument.
There's no such thing limits in dbz, they always break it all the time. Toriyama contradicted his statement just like Frieza's strength.
Goten and Trunks being young doesn't change anything.

Burden of proof on you

What feats? Gohan was just SSjin power and Gtenks was Sjin and even then Vegeta was surprised Beerus spanked him

Vegeta outperformed everyone but I'm not using this as my argument.

Gohan was Ssjin or not doesn't change the fact. He's not gonna outperform everyone because of his Mystic power, he'll get destroy by Beerus just like everyone else.

Vegeta being shock does not change the fact, he got destroyed. Its just another incosistent because Vegeta already expected him to get lose.

But you clai they are much stronger because Goku is implied to be the strongest and stronger than Ultimate Gohan no? It does matter because Gohan was not intended to be ultimate

Vegeta got his ass kicked and Beerus said it was his fighting skills. He also outperformed Goku so SSjin 2 Vegeta > SSjin 3 Goku?

If Gohan was ultimate he would be able to do better than the others.. The story would tell he is the strongest

 

[FutureProtagonist]

Golan is Ultimate in appearance only. He was animated as SSJ initially, fans didn't like that so they painted over him with black. In RoF, everyone seemed to stop caring. Black ink does not a battle power make; if the script and animation considers him SSJ, that's what he is, as far as I'm concerned.