BoG Goku Vs Gohan

[Pyro]

So as far as you're concerned, Ultimate Gohan doesn't exist past the Boo arc now?

 

[FutureProtagonist]

Yes. GT notwithstanding of course.

If the writers and animators had intended Super Saiyan to be his way of restoring lost Ultimate power, they would have just said that, rather than paint his hair black.

 

[Papasmurf]

Goku is the more powerful here.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Burden of proof on you

What feats? Gohan was just SSjin power and Gtenks was Sjin and even then Vegeta was surprised Beerus spanked him

Vegeta outperformed everyone but I'm not using this as my argument.

Gohan was Ssjin or not doesn't change the fact. He's not gonna outperform everyone because of his Mystic power, he'll get destroy by Beerus just like everyone else.

Vegeta being shock does not change the fact, he got destroyed. Its just another incosistent because Vegeta already expected him to get lose.

But you clai they are much stronger because Goku is implied to be the strongest and stronger than Ultimate Gohan no? It does matter because Gohan was not intended to be ultimate

Vegeta got his ass kicked and Beerus said it was his fighting skills. He also outperformed Goku so SSjin 2 Vegeta > SSjin 3 Goku?

If Gohan was ultimate he would be able to do better than the others.. The story would tell he is the strongest

Yes he's the strongest. He was challenging Beerus and wanted to see his power. It wouldn't make any sensed if someone is stronger than you and you just went head to head against him.

I already said that I'm not using Vegeta's performance as my argument.

He would do better than the others? Hell no, Gohan would ended up K.O. The gap is huge for him to do that, it takes the likes of Vegito to do better than that.

At the end, Toei and AT chose Gohan as Ultimate state and you can't change the fact.