Bojack vs Broly

[withheldforprivacy]

Can someone give me a rough estimate of Blowjack's power? I want to see if I could genuinely have RSSJ Broly > Bojack now.

I consider Bojack a movie version of Cell for simplicity's sake, so i have him equal to Perfect Cell.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Wasn't Bojack fighting with the advantage over Gohan?

 

[SSJ2]

Which do you go by CC?


CG SSJ Vegeta: 70
M8 ASSJ Vegeta: 140

CG Goku: 100
M8 SSJ Goku: 100
M8 MSSJ Goku: 150

CG Gohan: 140

Blow jack: 180

RSSJ Broly: 200

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Which do you go by CC?

Probably the 2nd option since Roshi has shown to be capable of sensing Ki by the time of the Cell/Boo Arcs and it's the only logical route to go by when it comes to Vegeta, other than throwing him a Toei hax.

 

[Pakl]

Can someone give me a rough estimate of Blowjack's power? I want to see if I could genuinely have RSSJ Broly > Bojack now.

Gohan was able to put up some level of defence against his transformed state whilst his 3 henchmen were attacking him, before their combined power overwhelmed Gohan. From this, there's two routes to go.

1. Gohan got a momentary rage boost and Super Bojack is far above CG SSJ Gohan. I'd still say he should be significantly below FP Perfect Shello though, seeing as how the latter wasn't ripped through by SS2 Gohan's punch.

2. Gohan was already far weaker than his CG self, as suggested by Roshi saying either Trunks or Gohan would win the tournament despite Gohan >>> Trunks at the Cell Games and Vegeta putting up a better performance against Bojack than either of them did (and having gotten no stronger than at the Cell Games due to having quit fighting) prior to Gohan's moment of taking on the villains 4 on 1. His rage/resolve boost brought him back to his Cell Game level, placing Super Bojack below his Cell Games self, but still far above his Boo Arc SSJ self and Cell Games SSJ Galu. The drop in strength could make sense if assuming the movie was going by the manga timeline of Future Trunks killing his timeline's Cell 3 years after returning to the his time.

Whichever route works best for you, I guess.

It's people who refuse to look at the evidence... My stance is the most solid and backed upby everything... The Hiru being weaker than Janemba was removed and pretty much false as M13 Goku is haxed... bio Broli is weaker because he fought weaker opponents. Not to mention that Koyama explains why Bio Broli is weaker anyway... Broli was intended to be in par with CG FPSSjin Goku.. You have to be blind to not see it... I have explained the whole thing with massive evidence.... Why not trying to counter it then if its not solid? Come on CC, you probably can treat my stance... Why not doing it? Movie 8 is not a mystery at all just like all the movies are not... They all follow a specific arc... M8 follows the Perfect Cell Arc...

P.S: its obvious SSJ2 is trolling right now so I would leave the rest for you all to judge

CC, you ask why I am so obsessed with this? I will ask you a question too. Why some people like SSJ2 are obsessed at being wrong and say shit like RSSJ Broli can beat Bojack when its freaking retarded and also choose to ignore the real strength of Broli based on evidence??

 

[SSJ2]

I'm not trolling at all... I'm simply following my new second RoSaT theory which is fact because I thought of it.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

It's people who refuse to look at the evidence... My stance is the most solid and backed upby everything...

And it's that attitude why, regardless of how much evidence it may have, people refuse to adopt such a thing. You treat the power of a DBZ movie villain as though it's the most important topic in the franchise.

The Hiru being weaker than Janemba was removed and pretty much false as M13 Goku is haxed...

It was still something stated by a member of Toei's staff like the statement you use as evidence, so they each hold comparable weight or lack thereof. The staff obviously don't care about Goku's hax as a factor as much as the fans, so that part isn't so important with their comparisons. Also, what's to say the same doesn't apply for that statement? The statement of Janemba > Hildegarn was posted on a website, far easier to remove than an interview statement posted in a guidebook that would be too minor for any edit to retract should the interviewee choose to anyway.

bio Broli is weaker because he fought weaker opponents. Not to mention that Koyama explains why Bio Broli is weaker anyway... Broli was intended to be in par with CG FPSSjin Goku.

Which simply proves the statement of each movie villain being stronger than the last being far from an absolute rule.

You have to be blind to not see it... I have explained the whole thing with massive evidence.... Why not trying to counter it then if its not solid? Come on CC, you probably can treat my stance... Why not doing it? Movie 8 is not a mystery at all just like all the movies are not... They all follow a specific arc... M8 follows the Perfect Cell Arc...

All we're told by official sources is that the events of the movie's timeline line up as being around the same time as the wait for the Cell Games. Everything else that would lead up to it's events such as Cell not being part of the plot are given no official statement revolving around them, meaning any sort of assumptions of Movie 8's timeline are entirely fanmade.

The stance of M8 Goku not being as strong as his Cell Games self is also illogical as it hinges purely on him having not displayed it (despite having already told Karin the Ki he did display was 50% and therefore setting the bar for his full power) when no event occurs within your scenario that would lead to Goku and Gohan's gains from the Rosat being any different than in the main timeline. The idea of Goku being weaker than his Cell Games self is from an entirely meta perspective and not an in-universe one.

P.S: its obvious SSJ2 is trolling right now so I would leave the rest for you all to judge

CC, you ask why I am so obsessed with this? I will ask you a question too. Why some people like SSJ2 are obsessed at being wrong and say shit like RSSJ Broli can beat Bojack when its freaking retarded and also choose to ignore the real strength of Broli based on evidence??

If that's the question you pose, then you're either deluded or completely narcissistic with an "I'm right, you're wrong" approach to an extremely trivial topic on an inconsistent franchise.

It's also freaking retarded to make essay-tier posts about the strength of a version of a character in a movie which is a dumb popcorn flick at best that appeared for less than an hour, yet you're fine wasting your time analysing every minute detail about it.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Which simply proves the statement of each movie villain being stronger than the last being far from an absolute rule.

Tbh the exact statement says every villian Goku fights is stronger than the former, so it's understandable as Goku never fights Bio Broly.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Tbh the exact statement says every villian Goku fights is stronger than the former, so it's understandable as Goku never fights Bio Broly.

Unless you count a sucker punch as a "fight" he never fought Blowjack either, so the point remains the same.

 

[ahill1]

I, much like withheld, consider bojack to be just the movie-version of cell, so broly, by virtue of being the vilain of a past movie (not that this is a rule, but i still don't see why such wouldn't apply here) would stack up a step or two behind cell and bojack, but still above ssj cell games gohan... so, in a straight up fight, bojack would win imo. If this is movie 10 broly though, then bojack is dead.

Oh, and for whatever reason, i am not managing to write caps letters anymore... i press the bottom for such on my tablet but it still doesn't work. So, sorry about it (the only letters that are written in caps are the ones who sets the beginning of a new phrase, but that's because my tablet is already set to do such).

 

[Flame]

Movie 8 Broly loses, Movie 10 Broly wins.

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

Is there any specifics to WHICH Broly this is?

M8 LSSJ Broly? Base Bojack wins with mid difficulty at best
M10 SSJ Broly? Base Bojack wins with mid difficulty at best
M10 LSSJ Broly? Broly takes an easy win

Who had the better movie? Eh...I think M9 is one the better DBZ movies. The first Broly movie wasn't bad.....than the sequels attacked..

 

[Southern Gothic]

Assuming this is Maximum Broli, he destroys Bojack.