BoZ Weighted Goku > Kami?

[p123]

Consistency doesn't matter here. All we can do is go with what is shown. Everything else is irrelevant. Weight removal at Raditz appears to be a significant boost, but isn't the tremendous one Goku received at the 23rd Budokai. Plain and simple.

 

[ahill1]

He went from rivaling 17 to rivaling 17

Not this instance. I'm talking about Piccolo removing his weights versus 2nd form Freeza. He went from being beated and speed blitzed by Freeza to being most likely slightly stronger than him. And that's when getting 1,000x+ more powerful than versus Raditz, where he got the 1.25x boost.

Heavier weights or not the boost at Saiyan Saga is still way lower anyway

Yes, it is, I've been saying that. I'm just questioning P on why he thinks this, when he is disregarding the scouter numbers, the only evidence pointing towards the boost being significantly lower.

 

[Kyo]

K my b. I don't know to what extent p ignores scouters so I have no clue. Even he can't ignore them outright but yeah.

 

[p123]

Even without scouters it's clear that the weight removal against Raditz wasn't all that tremendous. They went from being incapable of anything to being possibly capable of something combined.

Hell even with their exact scouter numbers for this situation, I might be willing to bump it up a little bit. What Raditz was doing to them was quite ridiculous.

Think of it this way...

Initial Raditz 100
Weighted Goku Piccolo 60
Goku Piccolo 80

That's probably feasible.