Broly LSSJ (M11) is just as powerful as Broly LSSJ (M10) or is he even stronger?

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Broly LSSJ (M11) is just as powerful as Broly LSSJ (M10) or is he even stronger?

At the end of M11, Enma Daio Sama wanted to send Goku and Pikkon to fight Broly. Did he mean Bio Broly or the real Broly?

In case they were referring to the real Broly, how powerful is Broly (M11)?
 

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In the context of the movie, it seems to be Bio-Broly. He died and went straight to hell.

He is very weak, even Goten and Trunks could fight him, but I think that mud must have weakened him somehow. Without it, he just be as strong as M10 Broly was (Above SSJ2 Goku/Majin Vegeta).
 

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In the context of the movie, it seems to be Bio-Broly. He died and went straight to hell.

He is very weak, even Goten and Trunks could fight him, but I think that mud must have weakened him somehow. Without it, he just be as strong as M10 Broly was (Above SSJ2 Goku/Majin Vegeta).
Why would Broli be stronger than SSjin 2 Goku? If anything he should be at best as strong as SSjin 2 Goku. Remember, Movie 11 villian should of been Fat Boo's level character and the first one to surpass the SSjin 2s.

Movie 10 Broli counterpart should be Dabura but since the Manga had Gohan fight Dabura as just SSjin, it can't be the case. However, I the anime, Dabura was fighting a stronger SSjin 2 Gohan than Broli fought. In the anime Gohan states that he has more power than before after being healed by Kibito.

I still think Movie 10 Broli should be stronger though. SSjin 2 Goku's level makes the most sense.
 

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Why would Broli be stronger than SSjin 2 Goku? If anything he should be at best as strong as SSjin 2 Goku. Remember, Movie 11 villian should of been Fat Boo's level character and the first one to surpass the SSjin 2s.

Movie 10 Broli counterpart should be Dabura but since the Manga had Gohan fight Dabura as just SSjin, it can't be the case. However, I the anime, Dabura was fighting a stronger SSjin 2 Gohan than Broli fought. In the anime Gohan states that he has more power than before after being healed by Kibito.

I still think Movie 10 Broli should be stronger though. SSjin 2 Goku's level makes the most sense.

Daizenshuu 6 states M10 SSJ Broly > Boo Saga SSJ Goku, so LSSJ Broly > SSJ2 Goku unless you have SSJ2 multiplier > LSSJ multiplier.
 

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Why would Broli be stronger than SSjin 2 Goku? If anything he should be at best as strong as SSjin 2 Goku. Remember, Movie 11 villian should of been Fat Boo's level character and the first one to surpass the SSjin 2s.

Movie 10 Broli counterpart should be Dabura but since the Manga had Gohan fight Dabura as just SSjin, it can't be the case. However, I the anime, Dabura was fighting a stronger SSjin 2 Gohan than Broli fought. In the anime Gohan states that he has more power than before after being healed by Kibito.

I still think Movie 10 Broli should be stronger though. SSjin 2 Goku's level makes the most sense.
Because simple scaling > your headcanon on the movies.
 

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Because simple scaling > your headcanon on the movies.
This is horrible education regarding the subject. Dragon Ball is a cartoon show, not a real life kick boxing. It's controlled by TOEI and as such the movies can't go ahead of the anime stated by Koyama himself. In the anime, TOEI haxes the characters which is why SSjin 3 Goku got more and more haxed during the Boo Saga. In the the Anime, the next characters or power ups surpass the ones before. What's so hard to understand?
 

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Daizenshuu 6 states M10 SSJ Broly > Boo Saga SSJ Goku, so LSSJ Broly > SSJ2 Goku unless you have SSJ2 multiplier > LSSJ multiplier.
I do have the SSjin 2 multiplier greater than the LSSjin one but still, I prefer to use evidence and common sense over contradictive guidebooks. I have no problem with M10 SSjin Broli being stronger than SSjin Goku but nothing in the movie actually implies it.
 

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I do have the SSjin 2 multiplier greater than the LSSjin one but still, I prefer to use evidence and common sense over contradictive guidebooks. I have no problem with M10 SSjin Broli being stronger than SSjin Goku but nothing in the movie actually implies it.

Going by actual movie feats, SSJ Broly is Base Gohan level. I’d definitely take the guidebook here since the only thing that’s contradictory here is the movie itself.

I feel like LSSJ could actually be > SSJ2 since LSSJ is based on SSJ Grade 3.
 

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This is horrible education regarding the subject. Dragon Ball is a cartoon show, not a real life kick boxing. It's controlled by TOEI and as such the movies can't go ahead of the anime stated by Koyama himself. In the anime, TOEI haxes the characters which is why SSjin 3 Goku got more and more haxed during the Boo Saga. In the the Anime, the next characters or power ups surpass the ones before. What's so hard to understand?
Toei haxes the characters when they want to and however they want to. And the hax isn't based on the anime's hax I don't know what you're on about.
 

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I do have the SSjin 2 multiplier greater than the LSSjin one but still, I prefer to use evidence and common sense over contradictive guidebooks. I have no problem with M10 SSjin Broli being stronger than SSjin Goku but nothing in the movie actually implies it.
The guidebooks are only contradictive to your headcanon.
 
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