Broly SSJFP > Jiren (Beyond Limits) and Broly SSJ (Post Frieza) > Vegeta SSJBE (Explosion Final)

[SIAD]

I saw chapter 126 and 127 of DBS again and probably Frieza did see Vegeta SSJBE's Final Explosion. Frieza was hiding since he was injured.

In Chapter 127 Frieza is unconscious after receiving a blow from Jiren and Frieza only wakes up when Goku lost the UI.

Jiren is not from Universe 7 and Frieza did not see UI Sign Goku for the 3rd time, nor UI Goku, therefore I think Broly SSJ (Post Frieza) is > Vegeta SSJBE (Final Explosion).

 

[Natasha Romanoff]

I disagree with the first claim, but agree with the second one (fusion was the only way to win as stated by Goku himself and unless evolved and Kaioken Blue exist in this universe which I find unlikely at best considering that if follows anime continuity, then SSJ Broly was stronger than both of them together without taking into consideration the possibility of them getting stronger than their past incarnations).

Wasn't Freeza sensing Jiren's hidden power? In episode 131, Freeza states that he didn't sense that absolute strength anymore. Was he referring to his regular self or the one that go beyond his full power?

 

[Goku9001]

I disagree with the first claim, but agree with the second one (fusion was the only way to win as stated by Goku himself and unless evolved and Kaioken Blue exist in this universe which I find unlikely at best considering that if follows anime continuity, then SSJ Broly was stronger than both of them together without taking into consideration the possibility of them getting stronger than their past incarnations).

Wasn't Freeza sensing Jiren's hidden power? In episode 131, Freeza states that he didn't sense that absolute strength anymore. Was he referring to his regular self or the one that go beyond his full power?

Fair point. I think Frieza did sense Jiren's full power. Belmod only refers to Jiren's full power as "unstoppable" and "absolute". But also, I think it's hyperspecific for the author of the novelization to refer to a specific form of Jiren and expect readers to deliberate on it. It adds so much unnecessary confusion that it makes more sense for that statement to be taken as a straightforward statement.