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Fantastische Hure said:Then how do you gais explain everyone's reaction to him and his power? Gohan for example felt Gotenks-Boo's power but still thought Freeza was way strong.
Pocket-God said:I'd be surprised if that Gohan could even beat his 25th Budokai counterpart lol
Good point, but usually new (reappearing) villains always surpass previous villains.Idea of Gaslight said:Fantastische Hure said:Then how do you gais explain everyone's reaction to him and his power? Gohan for example felt Gotenks-Boo's power but still thought Freeza was way strong.
Kami pre-fission was >>>>>>>>>>>>> Majunior but post-fission he is weaker and so was shocked by his power. FnF Gohan was a wuss that would be lucky to beat initial Super Boo imo.
That being said I still think 1st form Freeza was pretty strong, we're just not given any precise ballpark of how much although I assume he's > Ultimate Gohan since Gohan never stated he could beat him if he was at his former peak.
FnF Gohan is implied to be higher than Gotenks. Gohan from the Boo Saga has nothing on that.Pocket-God said:I'd be surprised if that Gohan could even beat his 25th Budokai counterpart lol
Even before turning Super-Saiyan, Gohan was called the highest and most dangerous enemy by Tagoma.Pocket-God said:I barely watched it and I've no plans of watching it again lol
But didn't Piccolo and Gohan both get pwned by Tagoma and then he went Super Saiyan and won?
What did Gohan do in base to be > Piccolo?
Fantastische Hure said:Good point, but usually new (reappearing) villains always surpass previous villains.Idea of Gaslight said:Fantastische Hure said:Then how do you gais explain everyone's reaction to him and his power? Gohan for example felt Gotenks-Boo's power but still thought Freeza was way strong.
Kami pre-fission was >>>>>>>>>>>>> Majunior but post-fission he is weaker and so was shocked by his power. FnF Gohan was a wuss that would be lucky to beat initial Super Boo imo.
That being said I still think 1st form Freeza was pretty strong, we're just not given any precise ballpark of how much although I assume he's > Ultimate Gohan since Gohan never stated he could beat him if he was at his former peak.
But Gohan was > Gotenks in FnF, so he's probably higher than at-least initial Super-Boo.
In which form could Freeza over-take Super-Saiyan 3 Vegetto from the Boo Saga in your opinion? Could Super-Saiyan Vegetto defeat the higher forms of Freeza?
Pocket-God said:I barely watched it and I've no plans of watching it again lol
But didn't Piccolo and Gohan both get pwned by Tagoma and then he went Super Saiyan and won?
What did Gohan do in base to be > Piccolo?
I should have said main-villain. 1st Form Cell > 100% FreezaIdea of Gaslight said:Fantastische Hure said:Good point, but usually new (reappearing) villains always surpass previous villains.Idea of Gaslight said:Kami pre-fission was >>>>>>>>>>>>> Majunior but post-fission he is weaker and so was shocked by his power. FnF Gohan was a wuss that would be lucky to beat initial Super Boo imo.
That being said I still think 1st form Freeza was pretty strong, we're just not given any precise ballpark of how much although I assume he's > Ultimate Gohan since Gohan never stated he could beat him if he was at his former peak.
But Gohan was > Gotenks in FnF, so he's probably higher than at-least initial Super-Boo.
In which form could Freeza over-take Super-Saiyan 3 Vegetto from the Boo Saga in your opinion? Could Super-Saiyan Vegetto defeat the higher forms of Freeza?
I think he still probably needs his 4th form since SSJ3 Vegetto is over a dozen times above Ultimate Gohan and his first 3 forms didn't have huge multipliers on Namek. 4th form Freeza clears DBZ though.
And the "new villain" thing isn't always concrete since Cell was weaker than the other androids until post-absorptions and Robo Tao is probably below Young Daimao, plus Freeza has far stronger forms anyway.
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Red-Bull meng is also implied to be > Piccolo. Very slightly.