Can Janemba's sword destroy characters much more powerful than himself?

[SIAD]

That is true?

 

[Papasmurf]

It's hard to say since he only ever used it against Goku, but given that SSJ2 Vegeta was able to destroy it, I doubt it'd work on beings a lot stronger than himself. Unless they were stupid and just let themselves get cut by it. But since cutting moves seem a lot more effective than melee or normal Ki blasts I think not even Gogeta would be retarded enough to take it head on, he'd probably dodge it and then attack with Stardust Breaker to purify Janemba.

 

[SIAD]

It's hard to say since he only ever used it against Goku, but given that SSJ2 Vegeta was able to destroy it, I doubt it'd work on beings a lot stronger than himself. Unless they were stupid and just let themselves get cut by it. But since cutting moves seem a lot more effective than melee or normal Ki blasts I think not even Gogeta would be retarded enough to take it head on, he'd probably dodge it and then attack with Stardust Breaker to purify Janemba.

@Kenshi So Super Janemba Initial (With his Sword) is more dangerous than Super Janemba (FP) and could even cut him?

 

[Papasmurf]

@Kenshi So Super Janemba Initial (With his Sword) is more dangerous than Super Janemba (FP) and could even cut him?

Considering Kuririn's Kienzan cut Freeza's tail off and was dangerous enough for him to need to dodge it repeatedly, plus Future Trunks' Ki sword (even before he powered it up with the Genkidama) could cut into Merged Zamasu's skin, I think the sword definitely makes Janemba much more dangerous.

 

[SIAD]

Considering Kuririn's Kienzan cut Freeza's tail off and was dangerous enough for him to need to dodge it repeatedly, plus Future Trunks' Ki sword (even before he powered it up with the Genkidama) could cut into Merged Zamasu's skin, I think the sword definitely makes Janemba much more dangerous.

@Kenshi

Do these numbers seem good to you?

Goku SSJ3 (M12) = 100

Fat Janemba = 70
Super Janemba (Initial) = 105
(PowerUp) = 115
(FP) = 125

SSJ Gogeta = 250

 

[Papasmurf]

Does Fat Janemba need to be that high? He didn't damage SSJ2 Goku that badly, and I'm assuming SSJ2 Goku is 25 on that list going by the 4x SSJ3 multiplier.

 

[SIAD]

@Kenshi

Do these numbers seem good to you?

Goku SSJ3 (M12) = 100

Fat Janemba = 65.625
Super Janemba (Initial) = 105
(PowerUp) = 115
(FP) = 125

SSJ Gogeta = 250

 

[Papasmurf]

Where are SSJ2 Goku/Vegeta on that list you would say? @SIAD

 

[Natasha Romanoff]

I doubt it. Gohan having a slight inferior level to Dabura proved to be able to destroy his sword, 18 proved to broke Trunks's sword and in the special just cut some hair.

With Gogeta, it could have probably be the same result as Trunks vs 18.

 

[SIAD]

Where are SSJ2 Goku/Vegeta on that list you would say? @SIAD

Vegeta SSJ2 = 13.5
Goku SSJ2 = 25

Look:

https://dbzeta.net/threads/m12-power-levels.25178/post-522918

 

[SIAD]

I doubt it.

In Wiki Vs Battle the Sword of Janemba is portrayed as a separate identity from this, as the Sword of Janemba ignores durability.

 

[Natasha Romanoff]

In Wiki Vs Battle the Sword of Janemba is portrayed as a separate identity from this, as the Sword of Janemba ignores durability.

At least with Gogeta I don't think it'd would work.

With someone having a slight edge or not that huge of a gap I'm doubtful.

 

[SIAD]

At least with Gogeta I don't think it'd would work.

With someone having a slight edge or not that huge of a gap I'm doubtful.

But I do believe that Super Janemba (Initial with Sword) >> Super Janemba (FP).

 

[Papasmurf]

I think Janemba's sword had more special characteristics since it was magically created and Janemba could launch Ki blades from it to attack from a range

 

[SIAD]

It could be that Janemba's Sword has some level of power and Super Janemba using it only adds to the powers.

It may be that Super Janemba was able to use his Sword only once or perhaps he did not have time to create it again, since Gogeta SSJ finished off Super Janemba very quickly.

I was thinking about this:

Goku SSJ3 (M12) = 100

Super Janemba (Initial) = 105

Janemba Sword = 105

Super Janemba (Initial + Sword) = 210

Super Janemba (Power Up) = 114

Super Janemba (FP) = 124

Super Janemba (FP + Sword / Hypothetical) = 229

Gogeta SSJ = 253.125

 

[Father]

He has reality warping capabilities.

The sword is only an extension of himself
so it shouldn’t make his PL any larger.