Cell (post Ginger Town) vs Super 13

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It says 16 is the strongest but it means in the series as 16 is canon
 

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There is no such distinction made, that's you making things up as usual.
 

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Stop saying as usual because most of what I say is based on

Its simple reading comprehension

The Bio is about 16... 16 is canon... only appears in the series and he is the secod strongest in the series

Super 13 is not even made by Gero
 

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Pakl said:
Stop saying as usual because most of what I say is based on
Based on...?
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The Bio is about 16... 16 is canon... only appears in the series and he is the secod strongest in the series
So show me where it says #16 is the second strongest canon Android? Oh wait, it doesn't. There's no distinction made. It never says #16 is the second strongest Android in the main series or anything like that, it just says he's the second strongest, and that's all.

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Super 13 is not even made by Gero
Yes, he is. The Daizenshuu treats #13 and Super #13 as the same person anyway, it's just a transformation, not a new person.
 

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Mike said:
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1. Then the Daizenshu is wrong
Why?
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2. The Saiyans and Piccolo are portrayed to be on the same level.
No, they're not. Goku was slightly disadvantaged against #13, Piccolo however said that he'll beat #13 or something along those lines (I'll go back and double check). Goku even drops out of Super Saiyan, implying he was going to let Piccolo handle #13.

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#16 can't one shot a Piccolo that beat #17
Says who?
1. because of my #3

2. ok

3. Because Cell, who is equal to #16, would've one shotted Piccolo and #17 if he could.
 

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Why's that? If I recall correctly, Cell even says something along the lines of ending this "game" implying he was toying.
 

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Or the game of cat and mouse. I'm not sure.

Cell wins this. Super #13 is tough, but I wouldn't put him higher than #16, who could've done the same things had he felt like it.
 

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Mike said:
Why's that? If I recall correctly, Cell even says something along the lines of ending this "game" implying he was toying.
But even after that, if he even says that, he didn't one shot anybody
 

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Cell broke Piccolo's neck when he punched. That alone establishes a significant difference between the two. All of the attacks before that didn't seem to be as powerful as that one.

Piccolo was still able to get up and stop Super #13 from using his SS Deadly Bomber against Goku. Not to mention Super #13 had to power-up while stomping Piccolo just to knock him out.
 

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Mike said:
Pakl said:
Stop saying as usual because most of what I say is based on
Based on...?
You should've went wild with this. So much potential.

@Topic. Cell takes it. I think there used to some evidence that I saw someone/some people use from the movie where something Piccolo did had more of an effect on Super #13 than Cell, for what it's worth. I know that's vague but I just don't remember. It's probably shaky, but there's the Daiz entry regardless and there isn't really any reason to place Super #13 above #16 anyway.
 

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Piccolo's hits budged S13, while his Gekiretsu Kodan did no damage to Cell.
 

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^yeah that must be why we dismissed it. Oh well.
 

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Clearin said:
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Piccolo's hits budged S13
Injured base Vegeta's punch made Super 13's head move :troll
Yes, he's also a Base Saiyan, and do we really need to consider their feats in Toei movies?
 

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Hello everyone, I'm back from my DBZ hiatus, which resulted from a bad Internet connection.

Anyways, as everyone else has pointed out, the Daizenshuu says that 16 is the strongest android in the series (at least, ignoring the rest of the Cell arcs).

This implies that Cell, who is equal to 16, would smash 13 with ease.
 

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Kamikaze Pyro said:
Clearin said:
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Piccolo's hits budged S13
Injured base Vegeta's punch made Super 13's head move :troll
Yes, he's also a Base Saiyan, and do we really need to consider their feats in Toei movies?
there's also that the daizenshuu specifically pointed-out that he didn't move from super-saiyan's attacks, & not super-namekian piccolo, so u can use that as support, i guess
 

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This poorly worded question should be "Imperfect Cell (Post Human) vs Super # 13". This is very easily give it a Cell, because easily withstood tremendous attack Piccolo, for while Super # 13, seems to be neither powerful triple Piccolo.
 

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I'd say Super 13 looks a bit more powerful to me. He's like a god to them.
 

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Cell could stomp anyone Super 13 stomped, so it's kinda hard to compare them. Piccolo did do more to Cell than he did to Super 13, but that's only because he got an off guard kick. I think either could be stronger than the other.

If you're the type to only make characters as bare minimum as you need to, then I think Super 13 would be smaller than Cell, since Cell has to be strong enough to completely tank a light grenade, while Super 13 hasn't shown such a feat.
 

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Clearin said:
Cell could stomp anyone Super 13 stomped, so it's kinda hard to compare them. Piccolo did do more to Cell than he did to Super 13, but that's only because he got an off guard kick. I think either could be stronger than the other.

If you're the type to only make characters as bare minimum as you need to, then I think Super 13 would be smaller than Cell, since Cell has to be strong enough to completely tank a light grenade, while Super 13 hasn't shown such a feat.
Piccolo was pretty tired when he did that. It might not have been that impressive.
 
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