could Goku's new form be 50x stronger than Blue?

[KyuubiAhri]

We know that He is going to use Kkx20 on jiren and that its not going to work nonetheless

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

It could be his ''True Potential'' if you get what I mean.

 

[SSJ2]

If they make this a copy of the Freeza arc power scaling I swear to god. If Goku needs Blue Kaioken x20 to fight Jiren then I don't understand how he won't get one shotted prior to using this.

 

[Void]

I'm hoping the form is temporary. Perhaps he absorbs the Genki Dama.

 

[xenos5]

If they make this a copy of the Freeza arc power scaling I swear to god. If Goku needs Blue Kaioken x20 to fight Jiren then I don't understand how he won't get one shotted prior to using this.

Jiren can't kill his opponents. Very possible one of the reasons Jiren's waiting so long to fight is that he has issues holding back his power to specific levels and he's concerned he'll accidentally kill participants and disqualify himself.

Kind of hard to be in the small gap between what's necessary to oneshot your opponent out of the ring and what would kill them when you've got such a massive power. As a result i'm thinking Jiren holds back a little too much against Goku to begin with but slowly ramps it up when SSBKKx20 is brought out.

 

[Void]

If they make this a copy of the Freeza arc power scaling I swear to god. If Goku needs Blue Kaioken x20 to fight Jiren then I don't understand how he won't get one shotted prior to using this.

As a result i'm thinking Jiren holds back a little too much against Goku to begin with

You mean when Goku fights him evenly in base like in the opening?


Thinking of Goku fighting Jiren in base and then ramping it up to 20x Kaio-Ken Blue.

 

[Pocket-God]

When it comes to Toei Base is Goku's strongest form
Unless I'm misremembering here doesn't Goku go from getting rekt by Omega as a SSJ4 to tanking his attacks in base?

 

[KyuubiAhri]

If they make this a copy of the Freeza arc power scaling I swear to god.

yes,what will you do?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I hope it will be a form something that Goku can never control and will have to use it very less like he did with SSjin3.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Unless I'm misremembering here doesn't Goku go from getting rekt by Omega as a SSJ4 to tanking his attacks in base?

He was absorbing the Genki-Dama's Genki when the latter happened, though he did survive Yi Xing Long's strongest attack.

Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if we peg Goku's new form at 50x Blue. At least manga-wise, the chain seems to be SSB Vegetto >~ Beerus >>>>> Base Vegetto >/>> SSB Goku, so even if the form ends up in the meme territory of "still weaker than Beerus", the gap is still fairly warranted.

That, and it could still just be 30x SSB and serve it's role of equally someone x20 Kaioken is helpless against.

 

[SSJ2]

If they make this a copy of the Freeza arc power scaling I swear to god.

yes,what will you do?

I'll swear to god.

 

[SIAD]

It could perfectly well be 50x the SSJB. I have doubts and I think it is possible that Jiren is> Vegetto SSJB (Manga).

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I can't wait in the future when someone would say that Goku in his new form was weaker than SSjinB KK20X Goku simply because his power level is very low when he reached that new form.

 

[SSJ2]

If Jiren > Vegetto..

 

[KyuubiAhri]

I can't wait in the future when someone would say that Goku in his new form was weaker than SSjinB KK20X Goku simply because his power level is very low when he reached that new form.

......freezasmite.....

 

[KyuubiAhri]

Unless I'm misremembering here doesn't Goku go from getting rekt by Omega as a SSJ4 to tanking his attacks in base?

He was absorbing the Genki-Dama's Genki when the latter happened, though he did survive Yi Xing Long's strongest attack.

are you sure? he was preparing to throw genki dama he wasnt absorbing it

 

[Captain Cadaver]

are you sure? he was preparing to throw genki dama he wasnt absorbing it

Via :toei logic, the Genki-Dama's power probably shielded Galu.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

M7 all over again? :toei never fail to surprise me.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

M7 all over again? :toei never fail to surprise me.

Except nowhere near as kewl due to lacking the best tanking feat in the series, having the Genki-Dama launched like usual instead of converted into a punch and not having DBZ Movie tier art/animation.

 

[ahill1]

Unless I'm misremembering here doesn't Goku go from getting rekt by Omega as a SSJ4 to tanking his attacks in base?

He was absorbing the Genki-Dama's Genki when the latter happened, though he did survive Yi Xing Long's strongest attack.

Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if we peg Goku's new form at 50x Blue. At least manga-wise, the chain seems to be SSB Vegetto >~ Beerus >>>>> Base Vegetto >/>> SSB Goku, so even if the form ends up in the meme territory of "still weaker than Beerus", the gap is still fairly warranted.

That, and it could still just be 30x SSB and serve it's role of equally someone x20 Kaioken is helpless against.

I thought you didn't agree with base Vegetto > SSJB Goku in the manga. What made you change your mind?