CP9 haki

[Future Warrior]

“Strengthening“ Haki ”related to Rokushiki” - Vivre card

The fuck does that even mean?

 

[SSJ2]

Maybe they applied Haki to their Rokushiki techniques?

 

[Future Warrior]

It worded like they already had it pre-ts.

 

[SSJ2]

Maybe it just means they strengthened the types of Haki most similar to Rokushiki.

 

[Future Warrior]

Yeah but I would think strengthen means to improve something they already possess.

 

[SSJ2]

Do you have the full quote on it or is that all that was said?

 

[Future Warrior]

I saw a reddit post but I checked a different source to confirm it.

Vivre Card Databook – Index Set (some new information)

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– Lucci’s vivre card originally said that he had learned haki during the timeskip. However, this correction states he simply strengthened his haki over the timeskip in relation to his Rokushiki, not learned it from scratch, pretty much implying pre-TS Lucci had haki. All CP9 members (minus Spandam and Nero) were revealed to have Observation and Armament haki in their cards when the CP9 pack first came out, so since it had been previously stated that Lucci learned haki to get into CP0, we assumed that they all learned haki as well and thus this was a soft confirmation of them having joined CP0. However, the fact that Lucci had haki pre-TS already would imply they all did, which means that they might not have joined CP0 after all (or maybe they did, but this doesn’t confirm anything)

– Furthermore, one of the new index cards states that “the training required for the acquisition of both mantra and rokushiki is akin to that used for acquiring haki”. Could this imply rokushiki is tied to haki? The card uses this following panel of tekkai, does it imply it’s like armament?

I'm open to the idea that this is just a mistake from the vivre card, but I find it suspicious that they originally had it be ''he learned Haki'' and then changed to ''Improved his Haki in relation to his Rokushiki''. Implying Oda corrected this.

 

[SSJ2]

That's far too confusing.

 

[SSJ2]

I'm thinking that maybe Tekkai is the only part of Rokushiki that could relate to Haki. Nero is listed as not having Haki despite having 4 parts of Rokushiki (missing Tekkai). Furthermore, Jinbe equated WW's Busoshoku to Tekkai, so maybe those two are the only ones that are related.

 

[Future Warrior]

It's weird cause all CP9 members are said to have CoO as well. If this was the case, shouldn't Blueno have been able to keep up with Gear 2 easily? Makes no sense.

 

[SSJ2]

Yeah I think it's just a blatant contradiction. No idea why the original was "corrected".

 

[Future Warrior]

Maybe when Lucci comes back it’ll be explained. I was hoping we’d get that with Who’s Who, but that asshole made it more confusing.