Cymbal Vs Krillin (22nd Budokai)

[Future Warrior]

I have no idea how strong Cymbal is, but im guessing at least stronger than Krillin and Yamcha (22nd Budokai)

 

[Fantastische Hure]

He is. Cymbal wins without much trouble, I think.

 

[Six Trails]

Cymbal wins since Tambourine was shocked that an Earthling was strong enough to kill Cymbal and he had fought Krillin by that point.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

I'll go with Cymbal for the reason stated above.

 

[Future Warrior]

You know, looking at the fight between Yajirobe and Cymbal, they seemed pretty much even. He even called him strong opponent and used his sword. This suggest the following chain

Goku (22nd Budokai) >= Tenshinhan (22nd Budokai) > Tambourine > Yajirobe >= Cymbal > Krillin ~ Yamcha

 

[Fantastische Hure]

You know, looking at the fight between Yajirobe and Cymbal, they seemed pretty much even. He even called him strong opponent and used his sword. This suggest the following chain

Goku (22nd Budokai) >= Tenshinhan (22nd Budokai) > Tambourine > Yajirobe >= Cymbal > Krillin ~ Yamcha

Yajirobe wasn't going all-out at first. When he did he one-shotted Cymbal.

 

[Papasmurf]

Yajirobe considered Cymbal pretty strong. Tenshinhan said he'd win against :Krillin with ease in the 22nd. Add to that Piccolo Daimao and Tambourine's reactions to Cymbal getting killed and you have a handy victory for Cymbal I'd say.

 

[Future Warrior]

You know, looking at the fight between Yajirobe and Cymbal, they seemed pretty much even. He even called him strong opponent and used his sword. This suggest the following chain

Goku (22nd Budokai) >= Tenshinhan (22nd Budokai) > Tambourine > Yajirobe >= Cymbal > Krillin ~ Yamcha

Yajirobe wasn't going all-out at first. When he did he one-shotted Cymbal.

But that was with his sword.

Spoiler

 

[Fantastische Hure]

You know, looking at the fight between Yajirobe and Cymbal, they seemed pretty much even. He even called him strong opponent and used his sword. This suggest the following chain

Goku (22nd Budokai) >= Tenshinhan (22nd Budokai) > Tambourine > Yajirobe >= Cymbal > Krillin ~ Yamcha

Yajirobe wasn't going all-out at first. When he did he one-shotted Cymbal.

But that was with his sword.

Spoiler

True. But 2 things:

Yajirobe did say he was going to get serious, and after he said that he directly one-shotted Cymbal with the sword.

Also, if you look at Yajirobe before he was struggling a bit with Cymbal and was surprised, once he got serious he dodged Cymbal's attacks like nothing.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

The many times stronger line would seem to imply that Cymbal is trash, despite him managing to trouble Yajirobe. I would just say that Yajirobe is lazy and didn't put much effort into the fight until the very end.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

The many times stronger line would seem to imply that Cymbal is trash, despite him managing to trouble Yajirobe. I would just say that Yajirobe is lazy and didn't put much effort into the fight until the very end.

Cymbal was still high, he just wasn't very high compared to Tambourine. 1 1 1

 

[Diamond Ryan]

The many times stronger line would seem to imply that Cymbal is trash, despite him managing to trouble Yajirobe. I would just say that Yajirobe is lazy and didn't put much effort into the fight until the very end.

Cymbal was still high, he just wasn't very high compared to Tambourine. 1 1 1

Yeah, I meant trash compared to Tambourine. I just think Goku is many times stronger than :Krillin

 

[Fantastische Hure]

The many times stronger line would seem to imply that Cymbal is trash, despite him managing to trouble Yajirobe. I would just say that Yajirobe is lazy and didn't put much effort into the fight until the very end.

Cymbal was still high, he just wasn't very high compared to Tambourine. 1 1 1

Yeah, I meant trash compared to Tambourine. I just think Goku is many times stronger than :Krillin

Which is weird considering how Kuririn was portrayed in the 22nd Tournament.

 

[Papasmurf]

To be fair Yamcha was portrayed as fairly strong against Ten too. And Kuririn somehow did well against Piccolo in the 23rd despite being an ant to injured Piccolo :Krillin

Sometimes I think Gaku and his final opponent in the Budokais get a plot power up during their final match 1

 

[Fantastische Hure]

To be fair Yamcha was portrayed as fairly strong against Ten too. And Kuririn somehow did well against Piccolo in the 23rd despite being an ant to injured Piccolo :Krillin

That was a kewl aspect of the early series. Even the non main-characters got to shine against the big bad.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Goku had to be humoring Kuririn if that viewpoint is to work. I think he only showed is full match level at the end, when he disappeared from everyone's sight.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Goku had to be humoring Kuririn if that viewpoint is to work. I think he only showed is full match level at the end, when he disappeared from everyone's sight.

And even then Tenshinhan pointed-out he wasn't going at full-force, so it works perfectly that way.

 

[Future Warrior]

Yajirobe wasn't going all-out at first. When he did he one-shotted Cymbal.

But that was with his sword.

Spoiler

True. But 2 things:

Yajirobe did say he was going to get serious, and after he said that he directly one-shotted Cymbal with the sword.

Also, if you look at Yajirobe before he was struggling a bit with Cymbal and was surprised, once he got serious he dodged Cymbal's attacks like nothing.

Is that in the Herms Translation?

 

[Papasmurf]

"I'll resent you for the rest of my life"

 

[Fantastische Hure]

But that was with his sword.

Spoiler

True. But 2 things:

Yajirobe did say he was going to get serious, and after he said that he directly one-shotted Cymbal with the sword.

Also, if you look at Yajirobe before he was struggling a bit with Cymbal and was surprised, once he got serious he dodged Cymbal's attacks like nothing.

Is that in the Herms Translation?

I'm not sure. I don't think it is, because I remember pointing it out once somewhere-else, but it's in the subbed-anime.

And in the english-version of the manga, too I think.

Yajirobe says something like "Exercise is over" or something.