Dabra/Saiyans/Piccolo

[GSM123]

Found this old post by SSJ2 on the archived F forum and thought It'd post it here. Thoughts?

We all know of the infamous quote that people use to say Base Saiyans > Piccolo.

Chapter: 447 (DBZ 253), P11.1-3
Context: talking about how Yamu and Spopovitch were followed by Goku and co.
Dabra: “Seems they’re trying to hide from us…In total…there are 7. We can’t use Kaioshin and Kibito’s energy…But 3 of them seem to have marvelous energy…”
Babidi: “Looks like it. It seems that we’ll get more than enough energy from just those 3…Kuhihihi…To think that we’d be able to revive Majin Boo so quickly…”

Just consider this for a minute. We need to look deeper into the sensing abilities of Dabura. Dabura fought a SSJ Gohan, and witnessed Base Goku, and Base Vegeta in action. During his fight with Gohan, Dabura wanted to get Babidi to control Vegeta. How would Dabura know that this would be a good idea if he couldn't sense Vegeta's SSJ power? He must have been aware of the power within Vegeta, and that if Babidi controlled it, he could be used to fight against the others.

So basically there really is no reason for this statement to be referring to the Base Saiyans. Simply put, how would Dabura be able to know that Vegeta could take on Goku/Gohan if he only saw his base form? He must have been able to sense his inner potential/power, and known that he could become an asset to Babidi.

Also here is some more food for thought. Old Kai was able to tell that Gohan had the most dormant power, and wanted him to be the one to go through the ritual. It seems like he is able to to sense the dormant power of a fighter. Dabura is a Makaioshin, basically an evil Kaioshin, so it is quite likely that he may have this ability too.

 

[SSJ2]

Dabura's sensing abilities are extremely questionable. The fact that he's able to tell that the Saiyans have marvelous energy when they are suppressed to 0 tells me that he isn't sensing in the typical way. Where this idea runs into problems is that Dabura was confident that Pui Pui and Yakon would be able to beat the 3 Saiyans. So in his mind this was the chain?

Yakon > Pui Pui >> Base Saiyans >>> Piccolo/Krillin

Makes it difficult to trust Dabura's abilities.