DBS Anime Power Levels

[Fantastische Hure]

And you said you’d never make another list again.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

And you said you’d never make another list again.

I said I'd never do another list after finishing that one... Which I never finished

 

[SSJ2]

Missing a lot of folks because I don’t want to bother with super lol decimals.

Don't be a coward and provide levels for everyone.

 

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@GreatSaiyaman123

However I don't remember where it is mentioned that Broly is the biggest enemy they have faced and is the most powerful Saiyan, which means that he is more powerful than UI Goku.

As for Belmod, he surely defeated Beerus way back when Belmod was much younger and more powerful against a much younger and less powerful Beerus.

 

[SSJ2]

Future Zamasu being 300,000 is hilarious

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Don't be a coward and provide levels for everyone.

Maybe when I do a full Dragon Ball list. Who cares how strong Jaco was in RoF anyway.

@GreatSaiyaman123

However I don't remember where it is mentioned that Broly is the biggest enemy they have faced and is the most powerful Saiyan, which means that he is more powerful than UI Goku.

As for Belmod, he surely defeated Beerus way back when Belmod was much younger and more powerful against a much younger and less powerful Beerus.

It’s in promotional material for the movie. Goku can’t use UI, so he’s just as powerful as Vegeta by the time of the movie.

I haven’t seen evidence that Beerus has been training in the anime yet, so until the anime comes back I’ll go with Jiren > Broly > Beerus. May rise Broly thought, since it’s possible that Beerus (Goku’s mind) > Broly > Jiren > Beerus (Real).

Future Zamasu being 300,000 is hilarious

He was already a pretty strong Kaioshin who even got compared to a Hakaishin and this is two decades after he had SSJ2 level power. It’s definitely possible, specially if he trained with Black.

 

[SSJ2]

Maybe when I do a full Dragon Ball list. Who cares how strong Jaco was in RoF anyway.

Nobody cares about Jaco, but characters like Gohan, Piccolo, Gotenks, etc should not be excluded.

He was already a pretty strong Kaioshin who even got compared to a Hakaishin and this is two decades after he had SSJ2 level power. It’s definitely possible, specially if he trained with Black.

It's still laughable considering Black is a measly 7200 on your list prior to gaining SSJR. We're meant to believe that Future Zamasu was exponentially above him all that time when Black was portrayed as the fighter? It's just garbage writing that has no valid explanation.

 

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Beerus (Manga) >>> Beerus (Anime)?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

It's still laughable considering Black is a measly 7200 on your list prior to gaining SSJR. We're meant to believe that Future Zamasu was exponentially above him all that time when Black was portrayed as the fighter? It's just garbage writing that has no valid explanation.

One of the few things the manga did better was to have Zamasu be piss weak and just act as the healer. Explains both his role and Black’s power. Seems like for every fuck up in the anime there’s a right in the manga, and vice versa.

In the anime they’re both the fighters though. Most of the time it’s a 2v2 between both sides with Vegeta fodderized. I genuinely can’t remember Vegeta doing shit besides getting stabbed pre Rosat lol. Some people think Zamasu was keeping up due to regeneration, but he clearly shows the strength to match SSJB Goku sometimes.

 

[SSJ2]

n the anime they’re both the fighters though. Most of the time it’s a 2v2 between both sides with Vegeta fodderized. I genuinely can’t remember Vegeta doing shit besides getting stabbed pre Rosat lol. Some people think Zamasu was keeping up due to regeneration, but he clearly shows the strength to match SSJB Goku sometimes.

Yeah, Base Black seemed to be above SSJB Vegeta before Vegeta was impaled. Nonsense lol

 

[SSJ2]

Also where is the implication that SSJB Vegeta was suppressed against Black initially?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Also where is the implication that SSJB Vegeta was suppressed against Black initially?

Like you said, Base Black seemed fairly close to Blue Vegeta. Considering they had just started to fight, I think it’s safe to say Vegeta was just warming up. Either that or SSJR is 200,000x SSJB Vegeta.

 

[Animelover5487]

I am tempted to call Future Zamasu's feats an outlier or the anime staff just wanting to show off his immortality. If Zamasu can go from below SSJ2 to Blue tier by sitting on his ass drinking tea than I don't understand why he would take Goku's body. And I doubt he was training with Black, Black was deadset on his ZMP and was still getting used to Goku's body and even if they did train Black didn't get to Blue tier until very recent after his trip to the past where he fought Goku.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I am tempted to call Future Zamasu's feats an outlier or the anime staff just wanting to show off his immortality. If Zamasu can go from below SSJ2 to Blue tier by sitting on his ass drinking tea than I don't understand why he would take Goku's body. And I doubt he was training with Black, Black was deadset on his ZMP and was still getting used to Goku's body and even if they did train Black didn't get to Blue tier until very recent after his trip to the past where he fought Goku.

Well the thing is, I don’t think he was just sitting on his ass drinking tea. Unlike the other Kais he’s a genuinely talented martial artist and was definitely training once in a while. Future Zamasu is decades older than Present which warrants him being much better, but with Goku’s body he went beyond that with a couple fights. Even if we treat his feats as Toei-ism I think he’s at least above SSJG level and maybe Base Goku Black.

 

[Animelover5487]

Well the thing is, I don’t think he was just sitting on his ass drinking tea. Unlike the other Kais he’s a genuinely talented martial artist and was definitely training once in a while. Future Zamasu is decades older than Present which warrants him being much better, but with Goku’s body he went beyond that with a couple fights. Even if we treat his feats as Toei-ism I think he’s at least above SSJG level and maybe Base Goku Black.

Decades for a Kai is the equivalent of a weekend. Zamasu may be a talented fighter but he is also very arrogant and narcissistic, for him he achieved the ultimate gift of a god when he attained immortality and it would be 100% in-character for him to not bother training or getting stronger afterward. The manga makes the fact that he neglected his training explicit and I believe that is what the anime was trying to imply too. Like him putting Blue Goku and Trunks in a full Nelson? It's just to show off his immortality. Future Zamasu's power is never hyped up like Black's, it's his immortality that is.

Stealing Goku's body gave Zamasu the drive and potential to keep getting stronger at a rapid pace. If Zamasu could get to Blue tier on his own than there would be no reason to steal it

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Decades for a Kai is the equivalent of a weekend. Zamasu may be a talented fighter but he is also very arrogant and narcissistic, for him he achieved the ultimate gift of a god when he attained immortality and it would be 100% in-character for him to not bother training or getting stronger afterward. The manga makes the fact that he neglected his training explicit and I believe that is what the anime was trying to imply too. Like him putting Blue Goku and Trunks in a full Nelson? It's just to show off his immortality. Future Zamasu's power is never hyped up like Black's, it's his immortality that is.

Stealing Goku's body gave Zamasu the drive and potential to keep getting stronger at a rapid pace. If Zamasu could get to Blue tier on his own than there would be no reason to steal it

Well Gohan went from Boo Saga level to rivaling SSJB in a weekend

I wouldn’t say the anime implies he slacked when he’s fighting shoulder to shoulder with Goku Black, trading blows with the SSJBs like he did. He’s definitely the weakest there and I should probably lower him a bit, but only in a pre Kami Piccolo/Pre Rosat SSJs/Androids kinda gap.

What’s your placement for Future Zamasu? He’s definitely above his present as stated by Goku.

 

[Animelover5487]

Well Gohan went from Boo Saga level to rivaling SSJB in a weekend

I wouldn’t say the anime implies he slacked when he’s fighting shoulder to shoulder with Goku Black, trading blows with the SSJBs like he did. He’s definitely the weakest there and I should probably lower him a bit, but only in a pre Kami Piccolo/Pre Rosat SSJs/Androids kinda gap.

What’s your placement for Future Zamasu? He’s definitely above his present as stated by Goku.

Future Zamasu is below SSJ3 Goku like his manga counterpart imo. Goku fighting him as a SSJB doesn't mean much when Goku also fought Kuririn, Trio De Danger, that U4 fodder and Berserk Kale in Blue.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Future Zamasu is below SSJ3 Goku like his manga counterpart imo. Goku fighting him as a SSJB doesn't mean much when Goku also fought Kuririn, Trio De Danger, that U4 fodder and Berserk Kale in Blue.

To be fair, other than Kale none of these guys stood the slightiest chance against SSJB Goku like Zamasu did. On Kale I think he just went Blue because SSJ3 was too heavy on stamina and the writers hadn’t remembered God yet. Goku even said he’d just be using “a little more power now”.

 

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SSJB Goku (Vs Jiren) > UI Sign Goku (Vs Kefla)?

"It was without a doubt, no being that could've won against this Broly existed. After the beating he had received, this much was clear to him. To Frieza, he represented a potential powerful weapon."

That line means that Broly SSJ > UI Goku (ToP).

 

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Jiren (Nearing FP): 800,000,000,000,000

UI Sign Goku: 800,000,000,000,000
~ UI: 2,000,000,000,000,000

Jiren (Full power): 1,600,000,000,000,000
~ Beyond limits: 1,920,000,000,000,000

Belmond: 1,600,000,000,000,000

Broly

Vegeta: 80,000,000
~ SSJ: 4,000,000,000
~ SSJG (Suppressed): 160,000,000,000
~ SSJB: 16,000,000,000,000

Goku: 80,000,000
~ SSJ: 4,000,000,000
~ SSJG: 320,000,000,000
~ SSJB: 16,000,000,000,000

Broly: 75,000,000
~ Full power: 37,500,000,000
~ Ikari: 375,000,000,000
~ Powered up: 450,000,000,000
~ Peak: 15,000,000,000,000
~ SSJ: 750,000,000,000,000
~ LSSJ: 1,500,000,000,000,000

Gogeta: 300,000,000,000,000
~ SSJ: 750,000,000,000,000
~ SSJB: 7,500,000,000,000,000

Beerus: 1,440,000,000,000,000

You just told me "I have SSJB Gogeta >> LSSJ Broly >>> SSJ Broly > UI Goku > BL Jiren > FP Jiren > Belmond > Beerus in both versions."

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