DBS Broly novel

[Fantastische Hure]

So you fed us information given to us by someone who used Google-Translator?

Spoiler

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

It’s not that inaccurate guys

 

[SIAD]

I was thinking that if Freeza saw the match between Jiren (Beyond Limits) vs UI Goku, it wouldn't make sense that Broly SSJ wasn't superior to these 2.

What I am seeing as an option is not to have too big an amplifier from the SSJFP. In the quote we saw from @GreatSaiyaman123 is that Gogeta SSJB after beating up Broly SSJFP, made Gogeta return to his SSJ Form. Something similar to what happened between Goku vs Future Zamasu in the Manga. Perhaps Gogeta SSJ3 could finish off Broly SSJFP.

What do you think?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

What if Freeza isn’t comparing Broly to Jiren and UI Goku?

He says nobody in existence can beat Broly, but Goku couldn’t use MUI and Jiren lives in another universe, so neither were really existing.

made Gogeta return to his SSJ Form

Broly returned to SSJ because he was being injured, not Gogeta.

 

[SIAD]

What if Freeza isn’t comparing Broly to Jiren and UI Goku?

He says nobody in existence can beat Broly, but Goku couldn’t use MUI and Jiren lives in another universe, so neither were really existing.



Broly returned to SSJ because he was being injured, not Gogeta.

And what about SSJBE and SSJB Kaioken forms? Are they also excluded in the Arc Broly?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

And what about SSJBE and SSJB Kaioken forms? Are they also excluded in the Arc Broly?

Goku and Vegeta can use them at will so they’re definitely included.

 

[SIAD]

Goku and Vegeta can use them at will so they’re definitely included.

And what do you think between Vegeta SSJBE (Final Explosion) vs Broly SSJ? What is stronger?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

And what do you think between Vegeta SSJBE (Final Explosion) vs Broly SSJ? What is stronger?

They should be about the same. If my calculations are right then the only people above SSJ1 Broly are 3rd UIO Goku, MUI Goku and Jiren (FP and beyond)

 

[SIAD]

They should be about the same. If my calculations are right then the only people above SSJ1 Broly are 3rd UIO Goku, MUI Goku and Jiren (FP and beyond)

Do you have: UI Sign Goku (Kamehameha vs Jiren) >> 3rd UI Sign Goku (Initial) >>>> UI Sign Goku (Kamehameha vs Kefla)?

 

[Pyro]

Freeza's knowledge of Ultra Instinct is the linchpin for SSJ Broly's strength IMO.

Whether you include Blue Kaioken and Blue Evolved determines how strong Freeza is as well. He can take one on his own but not both.

SSJ Broly: 120
Golden Freeza: 100 (durability of 110)
SSBKK/SSBE: 90?
SSB Goku/Vegeta: 4.5?

 

[Papasmurf]

I think SSJBE and Kaio-ken just aren't in the movie since AT didn't come up with either concept. It'd be hard to animate that arc into the anime with a good explanation for why neither transformation is in the movie. Perhaps you could have Vegeta being drained from fighting Ikari Broly by having him use SSJB against him prior, and Goku could go SSJG right away instead of dicking around with SSJ and base.

Guess we'll need to wait for the Fagnolah arc to finish in the manga and for Super Hero to come out this summer, after which Toei will probably stop milking only that garbage Heroes anime and get started on animating the Broly, Moro and Granolah arcs. I'd personally prefer if they just televised Broly and moved onto Moro and then Granolah, then televise Super Hero and animate whatever pre- or post-EoZ arc they have prepared after that, but lord knows Toei won't miss the chance to animate more episodes and therefore earn more $$$$ through little effort.

 

[Papasmurf]

Another possibility is that they'll have Blue Evolution and KK in the anime arc, and Freeza could possibly get a beyond-Golden transformation. Wouldn't be the first time the anime added in things out of nowhere, and it could be mirrored in the manga too during Freeza's reappearance similar to how Kaio-ken was only in the manga by the ToP as opposed to being introduced all the way back in the Universe 6 arc like the anime.