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In the Hunter X Hunter verse, the highest tiers are Tenshinhan and Goku level in the 22nd Budokai.

As for One Piece, Young Piccolo Daimao Full Power tier tops for the strongest characters.

Naruto... Piccolo Junior in the 23rd Budokai. Maybe Raditz level for the absolute strongest characters in that Manga if I were to really push it.

Toriko characters are easily Freeza Arc tier.

Bleach has no power chains.

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I think Naruto should be a bit higher
8 gates guy was ripping reality with his power
And speed, somewhere in z for sure
 

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Actually it was CONFIRMED that Madara (using the Six Sage powers) was equal to Saiyan Saga Nappa.
That's the ONLY character compared to a Dragon Ball character so far though.
Makes us wonder about the level of Kaguya or CURRENT Naruto and Sasuke.
MAYBE Kaguya with around Saiyan Saga Kaio-Ken x? from me?
 

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^Kaguya was heavily implied to be a Planet Buster, especially if you take OBD calcs for any value, so likely Saiyan Arc Vegeta at the very lowest. Speed-wise, even most Naruto Jonin/Weaker-Kage tiers are in the speed range of Namek Arc characters going by the statement of Kakashi cutting a lightning bolt.

As a whole for each verse...

One Piece = 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai tier

Naruto = Saiyan Arc Vegeta tier for Kaguya. About Base Goku (Vs. Nappa/Vegeta) for most of the other top tiers.

Bleach = 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai tier

Toriko = Freeza/Early Cell Arc tier. Perfect Cell tier if the Star busting hype is revealed to be true.

Hunter X Hunter = Initial Prime Piccolo Daimao tier for Meruem/Rose Netero. Old Daimao tier for other top tiers.

And now a few more...

Yu Yu Hakusho = Intial Nappa tier

Hokuto no Ken = Full-Power Prime Daimao tier. Potentially 23rd TB tier via hax of Musou Tensei and superior speed over part 1 characters.

Saint Seiya = Mid tiers can solo the DB Franchise

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure = Solos the DB Verse due to Haxed Stands such as GER, Made in Heaven, D4C, Cream, etc.

Sakigake!! Otokojuku - Initial Prime Daimao tier

Kinnikuman - Debatable due to some contradictive feats, though at lowest, at least above Nappa. Due to the implications of Plantary energy from the Hell's Missionaries, probably around Ginyu Tokusentai tier for it's top tiers.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure = Solos the DB Verse due to Haxed Stands such as GER, Made in Heaven, D4C, Cream, etc.
Can someone really kill many Dragon Ball top tiers with Cream, I wonder? I mean it's more efficient than The Hand, but the void's speed is low enough that it took a while for him to corner Polnareff, and a lot of DB characters can teleport or regenerate...

GER is doubtlessly powerful enough, though, and I'll need to read Part 7 to learn more about D4C, but I'm not sure about Made In Heaven as it doesn't have any special abilities other than accelerating time, not even being able to protect the user from generic Stand abilities like Weather Report at the end of the battle.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
^Kaguya was heavily implied to be a Planet Buster, especially if you take OBD calcs for any value, so likely Saiyan Arc Vegeta at the very lowest. Speed-wise, even most Naruto Jonin/Weaker-Kage tiers are in the speed range of Namek Arc characters going by the statement of Kakashi cutting a lightning bolt.

As a whole for each verse...

One Piece = 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai tier

Naruto = Saiyan Arc Vegeta tier for Kaguya. About Base Goku (Vs. Nappa/Vegeta) for most of the other top tiers.

Bleach = 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai tier

Toriko = Freeza/Early Cell Arc tier. Perfect Cell tier if the Star busting hype is revealed to be true.

Hunter X Hunter = Initial Prime Piccolo Daimao tier for Meruem/Rose Netero. Old Daimao tier for other top tiers.

And now a few more...

Yu Yu Hakusho = Intial Nappa tier

Hokuto no Ken = Full-Power Prime Daimao tier. Potentially 23rd TB tier via hax of Musou Tensei and superior speed over part 1 characters.

Saint Seiya = Mid tiers can solo the DB Franchise

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure = Solos the DB Verse due to Haxed Stands such as GER, Made in Heaven, D4C, Cream, etc.

Sakigake!! Otokojuku - Initial Prime Daimao tier

Kinnikuman - Debatable due to some contradictive feats, though at lowest, at least above Nappa. Due to the implications of Plantary energy from the Hell's Missionaries, probably around Ginyu Tokusentai tier for it's top tiers.
Yeah, that's definitely how I see it. Although, I would upgrade YuYu Hakusho to Saiyan Arc Vegeta tier and One Piece to Raditz tier.
 

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Kenshi said:
Can someone really kill many Dragon Ball top tiers with Cream, I wonder? I mean it's more efficient than The Hand, but the void's speed is low enough that it took a while for him to corner Polnareff, and a lot of DB characters can teleport or regenerate...
GER is doubtlessly powerful enough, though, and I'll need to read Part 7 to learn more about D4C, but I'm not sure about Made In Heaven as it doesn't have any special abilities other than accelerating time, not even being able to protect the user from generic Stand abilities like Weather Report at the end of the battle.
Well, I only listed Cream since it's one hit kill ability could be of some assistance in a JoJo VS DB battle. It's possible for it to take a few powerful characters by surprise, considering most characters' tendency to take an attack and gauge it first.

Pucci wasn't using MiH when Weather Report was used though. It could kill the DB cast save for a few seemingly ageless beings such as Boo by not fighting them directly and accelerating time to the point that their lifespan expires.

Yeah, that's definitely how I see it. Although, I would upgrade YuYu Hakusho to Saiyan Arc Vegeta tier and One Piece to Raditz tier.
Saiyan Arc Vegeta is at least continent level though, most likely planetoid - small planet level even without the Gyarikku Ho, which is far beyond what YYH showed capable of. Currently, OP haven't showed anything past island level either, so power-wise they're not Raditz tier just yet, though they could probably take him via superior speed and hax.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Kenshi said:
Can someone really kill many Dragon Ball top tiers with Cream, I wonder? I mean it's more efficient than The Hand, but the void's speed is low enough that it took a while for him to corner Polnareff, and a lot of DB characters can teleport or regenerate...
GER is doubtlessly powerful enough, though, and I'll need to read Part 7 to learn more about D4C, but I'm not sure about Made In Heaven as it doesn't have any special abilities other than accelerating time, not even being able to protect the user from generic Stand abilities like Weather Report at the end of the battle.
Well, I only listed Cream since it's one hit kill ability could be of some assistance in a JoJo VS DB battle. It's possible for it to take a few powerful characters by surprise, considering most characters' tendency to take an attack and gauge it first.

Pucci wasn't using MiH when Weather Report was used though. It could kill the DB cast save for a few seemingly ageless beings such as Boo by not fighting them directly and accelerating time to the point that their lifespan inspires.
Well it's kinda like arguing any character that can't regenerate will get killed by a Kienzan. Since Freeza instinctively evaded it and Goku avoided being killed by Freeza's psychic trap attack at the last second, I doubt too many characters will just stand there if they sense danger from it. Cell was only hit by the Final Flash because Vegeta taunted his pride long enough for the attack to hit, after all.

He did accelerate time just before his death, which is doubtlessly an application of MiH. I mean yes, if he'd used it before Emporio activated the WR ability he'd have killed him, but it did indeed fail to eliminate Emporio just before Pucci's death.

As for its ability to accelerate time, Pucci hadn't demonstrated the ability to use such a power on his opponents (although they most likely weren't powerful enough to force him to resort to that if he has the power), and if he does have that ability he'd probably age faster as well since his speed comes from acceleration of time. He may be able to suffer less from the time acceleration, but then he'd be a lot slower too.
 

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True. I was merely saying that Cream could play a more significant role than most other non-technical Stands if used effectively, by however little it may be.

That's true with Pucci as well, though as you already said, he'd already been affected by Weather Report, which may have affected his overall performance. MiH was listed in it's stats a few chapters prior to have Infinite Speed due to it's ability, so it's unlikely Pucci was running at full power then.
 

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Pucci's time acceleration speeds up the longer he uses the ability I think, which is why it merely resulted in worldwide disaster for a while due to time passing faster to later restarting the universe. It's honestly still a godhaxed ability, but due to it still leaving the user somewhat vulnerable I don't know if it can be of that much use against solar system busters.
 

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Well, I did say that if he used it indirectly outside of combat, similar to how Light did things with the Death Note. Since the DB characters wouldn't actually know he was causing it due to it's ability likely not corresponding with his Ki signal, a plan like this may come together, even if he and his Stand can be sensed.
 

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Both One Piece and Yu Yu Hakusho had power level indicators in their series.
CP9's Lucci's was 4,000 according to CP9's Fukuro.
Here's proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyHLExyoHzo
He uses a technique known as "Te-Awase". ALSO, this technique ONLY measures the normal physical strength, but not with Devil Fruit powers in addition. This means Lucci could be higher than 4,000.
Now think about the fact Luffy beat him. NOW think about how much time has pasted and how much stronger Luffy has become! I'm guessing Luffy would be (at the very least) 12,000 by now (especially with Gear 4th).
This would put him above Nappa, but still only half of Vegeta...

Now for Yu Yu Hakusho.
A demon (can't remember name) used a device to scan spirit power levels. A SUPPRESSED Yusuke was at 200,000!
Here's proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-11H900I1Ms
Now remember the time past and him at full power. It's heavily implied that his max against Yomi was close or above 1,000,000. If this is true, then he'd be right to the point that 2nd Form Frieza came around. Now remember that another 3 years pass after this fight before the end of the story. How much stronger has Yusuke become?! How strong will he and Luffy be in their prime as young adults?!

After ALL THIS...remember that power is also determined differently in these universes, so don't take all this to seriously.
 

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Kenshi said:
Did he write my REAL name?
How would he find out?
Has he seen my face?
He never made the "eye deal"...
(I'm also not a human.)
 

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I rate Naruto about Freeza Arc tier, with some characters possibly going even higher. 8 Gates Guy has physical strength on par with top tier DBZ and I believe is faster than anyone in DBZ (light speed); some techniques, like Rasenshuriken, Dust Release, and possibly others should kill pretty much anyone regardless of durability, since they attack on a cellular level. A lot of characters also have teleportation. They might not be able to cause explosions like DBZ, but they're on par or greater in terms of speed and strength.
 

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FutureProtagonist said:
I rate Naruto about Freeza Arc tier, with some characters possibly going even higher. 8 Gates Guy has physical strength on par with top tier DBZ and I believe is faster than anyone in DBZ (light speed); some techniques, like Rasenshuriken, Dust Release, and possibly others should kill pretty much anyone regardless of durability, since they attack on a cellular level. A lot of characters also have teleportation. They might not be able to cause explosions like DBZ, but they're on par or greater in terms of speed and strength.
You're getting into dangerous territory right there son, thinking Nahrootoe is in that der' Freeza Arc tea-air.

Let me remember some animes I watched as a kid...

Samurai Champloo - Outside of some gag feats Mugen and Jin likely have incredible difficulty with Bodb Goku, although the both of them have shown incredible ability to stay alive through hellacious ish. Iirc Mugen took on a cannonball mirage and lived and Jin more or less Seppukku'd himself to take out someone and still lived.

Big O - 21st Budokai? I'm having quite some difficulty remembering specifics but I do recall the mechs being building sized or skyscraper sized.
 

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I would say most of bleach, naruto, and YYH can't make it past Dragonball. I think once Roshi blew the moon up, it set the bar for ridiculousness.
 

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It's not all about raw power
But yeah most series don't make it past
Early dbz if not late db
 
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