Did Frieza increase his power when blocking kkx20 Kamehameha?

[KyuubiAhri]

Personally i think he increased the power because later on goku says that frieza wasnt bluffing and that he really was using 50% power and that can only make sense if frieza increased power during the clash.What do you guys think?

 

[Papasmurf]

If he did increase it, he didn't increase it to 70% considering the way he claimed Goku underestimated him when blowing him away with only 70% saying that was far from his 100.

For simplicity's sake I just have him at half power.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

But still considering what goku said it makes sense that he increased it,at least slightly

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah, over 50% but under 60% I'd say.

 

[sei'taer]

Personally i think he increased the power because later on goku says that frieza wasnt bluffing and that he really was using 50% power and that can only make sense if frieza increased power during the clash.What do you guys think?

It makes perfect sense. The only thing that ever made it not make sense was the erroneous belief furiza vs kkx10 goku was at 25%.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I think the whole point of KK20x and KKH was to confirmed that Freeza was using his 50% power and was strong enough to not take a damage.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I don't see a reason for him to have increased his power there. Before Goku tapped into Kaio-Ken x20, he was still in-denial on the idea of Freeza using 50% of his power. Freeza blocking the KMHMH merely confirmed that Freeza was at that level.

 

[Six Trails]

To me, it wouldn't make sense if Freeza didn't increase his power here. What about Freeza blocking the Kamehameha would make Goku realize that he was only using 50% of his power?

 

[SSJ2]

To me, it wouldn't make sense if Freeza didn't increase his power here. What about Freeza blocking the Kamehameha would make Goku realize that he was only using 50% of his power?

Either way, how would he know it was only half, even if he raised his level beyond what it was?

 

[Mystic b4 He Got Laid]

I always thought 70% was the highest Frieza could access without powering up.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

Freeza blocking the KMHMH merely confirmed that Freeza was at that level.

aaaaaand how can it be confirmed that frieza is using only 50% if frieza stayed at 50 % when blocking that KMHMH?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

"If he's really only using 50%" is Goku simply believing there's a chance that he's full of crap. He knew that a Kaio-Ken x20 wouldn't matter if Freeza was only using that much power, anyway.

Stopping the KMHMH was merely confirmation that Freeza was only using 50% of his power. There's no change in power, only effort.

In a nutshell:

Goku: "If Freeza is only at 50%, I'm going to get my ass beat to oblivion. Might as well try the Kaio-Ken x20.

*Shoots KMHMH*

Goku: "Well, looks like he wasn't telling a lie about using 50% of his power."

That's all the sequence really means, imo.

 

[Six Trails]

Either way, how would he know it was only half, even if he raised his level beyond what it was?

Because of Freeza saying that he was only using half of his power before he raised it. Goku was hoping that Freeza's statement was a bluff (i.e; that his 50% was really his full power), so if Freeza raised his power even further than 50%, then Goku would realize that Freeza wasn't just full of shit.

I just don't see how Goku could come to the conclusion that Freeza wasn't bluffing if Freeza didn't raise his power. How would blocking the Kamehameha be an indication that Freeza has more reserves, rather than just an indication of how strong Freeza's 50% power is?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Wouldn't that be classified as using more than 50% of his power? The way I see it, Freeza said he was going to use 50% power, Goku hoped he was bluffing, and realized Freeza wasn't by seeing his KMHMH blocked.

 

[p123]

As far as I know, reserves don't play a factor in battle power. If you are using 50% of your power and don't increase it, you will react the same way as someone who was half your total power.

Under that logic, Freeza had to have used extra power, or else it wouldn't make sense.

For example, 50% Freeza wouldn't have survived the KHH. But 60% Freeza was able to walk away from it just burnt. Freeza does mention he almost died as well. Clearly he wasn't talking about his full power there.

 

[Void]

Do you think he increased his power vs. the Genki Dama?

 

[p123]

That's a damn good question.

 

[Papasmurf]

As far as I know, reserves don't play a factor in battle power. If you are using 50% of your power and don't increase it, you will react the same way as someone who was half your total power.

Under that logic, Freeza had to have used extra power, or else it wouldn't make sense.

For example, 50% Freeza wouldn't have survived the KHH. But 60% Freeza was able to walk away from it just burnt. Freeza does mention he almost died as well. Clearly he wasn't talking about his full power there.

Freeza only says he almost died after the genkidama. He only says the KHH hurt a lot.

I also believe Freeza accessed 70% of his total power against the genkidama as he can power up that much without a visible power up sequence, and it'd also explain how he survived it with only a fucked up tail. You could assume the urgency of the situation and Goku, Krillin and Gohan all being low on power caused them to forget to ki sense the increase.

 

[p123]

Na, I think he said he could have died after the KHH too.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I do believe he raised his power against the Genki-Dama, though.

With the KMHMH, I only see him raising his effort to stop the attack:

He only hit Goku hard enough to not kill him. We know he wasn't using anywhere near all of his effort at half-power.