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That's one interpretation. I go with the interpretation of Goku being screwed due to if Freeza was only 50%, then he could easily increase his power even more and easily block the KMHMH. If Freeza is at full power, then he couldn't increase it even more, so that level of attack would be able to screw him. That's supported by Goku concluding Freeza was only using 50% and by the fact that he thought the KMHMH could do more damage.
That statement makes sense because Goku is concluding Freeza is using 50% of his power. Like I said, maybe it'd be better said as "has been using", but that was enough to conclude Freeza was actually not at full power. Goku wouldn't be able to conclude Freeza was at half power if Freeza stayed at this same amount.
That's your interpretation, I see it as Freeza increasing it past 50%, which leaded Goku to conclude he was only actually at 50%. The he is really using 50% is actually referring to the power Freeza was using against him that whole time, but the wording wasn't so good, imo. You can say he stayed at the same power, but I'm not the one who agree with him increasing his power here. It's not a set in stone thing, even though I think Freeza increasing his power makes more sense considering what Goku said.
He was telling the truth, because he was using 50% when kicking Goku's ass. The entire point was whether Freeza was using 50% or not when effortlessly beating Goku. Goku is hoping that the 50% part is a bluff, but he concluded it wasn't when Freeza blocked his KMHMH.
But he was using 50% when kicking Goku's ass, I never denied it. I am talking about the KMHMH moment, which leaded Goku to conclude the validity of Freeza's line as to using half power when beating him. I already said Goku's line would be better at "has been using", but it doesn't change the point that Goku was referring to the moment Freeza was beating him. If you want, I can ask Herms his interpretations of this line (if he replies to me, that is).
But if he used full effort, that means he still stayed at 50%, so Goku wouldn't conclude he wasn't lying before. I can only make sense of Goku concluding Freeza wasn't lying before if this latter showed 50% wasn't his max power.
But in that case he would still be at 50%. How would Goku conclude Freeza wasn't lying if he was still at 50%? Doesn't make sense. Let's say Goku couldn't figure how strong Freeza was initially due to this latter not putting out all of his effort:
Freeza (50%) 100
~actual effort 75
~full effort 100
Then, for Goku, the "actual effort" would be Freeza's 50%, since he didn't realize how strong he was still, right? If Freeza raised his effort to full, then he would conclude 50% Freeza was actually more powerful than he thought. If so, him confirming Freeza was at 50% wouldn't make sense, rather, he'd be talking about how 50% Freeza is stronger than he thought. I mean, why Freeza showing his real 50% capabilities would help Goku realize the 50% part wasn't a mere bluff?
He was using 50% of his power when kicking Goku's ass. I see where you are coming from, Goku stating Freeza really IS using 50% means he was using it at that moment, right? Hence why I said the situation would be better represented as "has been". But what if Freeza just bursted his power to block the KMHMH and quickly reverted back to 50%? Then that would mean at that moment (after the KMHMH, when Goku did that statement) Freeza would be at 1/2.
Goku is wishfully thinking. He is hoping Freeza's line about 50% is not true, while Freeza clearly stated it. He is just hoping it isn't true and concluded it after Freeza stopped his KMHMH.
Well, Freeza increasing his powers would actually be a good explanation as to why Goku concluded it, because it'd give Goku an idea that what Freeza was displaying wasn't his max.
