Do we discard SSJB Goku and Vegeta beating Beerus?

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It's been stated Goku and Vegeta can beat Beerus if they teamed up with SSJB, but new material suggest otherwise.

Or maybe Whis knew that Goku was gonna use Kaioken x10! :cage1
 

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Not sure. It's pretty fuckin' difficult to make any sort of conclusive determination without contradicting something. Perhaps, but than again, perhaps not. Perhaps the Kaio-Kenx10 was more-or-less a work in progress and wouldn't be wholly effective against Beerus, due to the handicaps of the amplification.

At this point, I'm not even sure. Going to have to wait for something more concrete.
 

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They completely omitted that comment in the series. It's not even there. Only in the movie.
 

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Yeah, they definitely aren't beating Beers together. Add Hit to the team and they still lose.

Champa says Time-Skip and Super Saiyan is nothing to him.
 

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Tosh said:
Not sure. It's pretty fuckin' difficult to make any sort of conclusive determination without contradicting something. Perhaps, but than again, perhaps not. Perhaps the Kaio-Kenx10 was more-or-less a work in progress and wouldn't be wholly effective against Beerus, due to the handicaps of the amplification.

At this point, I'm not even sure. Going to have to wait for something more concrete.
Interesting thought here, I like this idea. Kaioken x3 Goku could not beat a much weaker Vegeta for example.
 

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If Goku was unable to beat Hit with this, chances are it wouldn't have fared any better against a significantly more powerful Beers. Goku said he was going to stay away from the Kaio-Ken for awhile, so I'm not sure if it's going to be a regular thing.
 
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