Do we have any indication...

[SSJ3 Gothic]

That Trunks and Goten had SSJ2 at all in GT? Screenshots would be great if they exist.

 

[Six Trails]

http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=9159143&t=8536484

As of now, I don't think they actually had SS2 as there's no statements or supplemental information in data books, which I feel there would be for something like that.

 

[SSJ3 Gothic]

http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=9159143&t=8536484

As of now, I don't think they actually had SS2 as there's no statements or supplemental information in data books, which I feel there would be for something like that.

That one shot of Trunks is all that comes to mind. But the circumstances were weird too. I would just think it would have been useful in later sagas, yet the only evidence is so early on.

I'm working on some GT levels, and I've never done BP before :huh:

(I actually remember that post, Mike)

 

[Six Trails]

If I recall the correctly, the Perfect Files also excludes them from the Super Saiyan 2 users section.

 

[Pyro]

If I recall the correctly, the Perfect Files also excludes them from the Super Saiyan 2 users section.

It does exclude them. It doesn't even include Vegeta on his own either, just Demon Prince Vegeta or something, I believe.

 

[SSJ3 Gothic]

You guys mind a couple more off topic questions to help me out

 

[Pyro]

You guys mind a couple more off topic questions to help me out

You shut the fuck up and ask your questions.

 

[SSJ3 Gothic]

How do you feel about Pan in relation to Base Trunks. Close but not too close?

Any problem with a Lood transformation boost? I need an excuse to exceed what he absorbed from Pan and his Lood apostles to make my numbers work.

Is Base Goku at 100 a decent building block?
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[Six Trails]

No one seemed to take Pan seriously, so I doubt she was stronger than Base Goten or Base Trunks in the first arc. Only when enraged.

 

[SSJ3 Gothic]

No one seemed to take Pan seriously, so I doubt she was stronger than Base Goten or Base Trunks in the first arc. Only when enraged.

She can't be complete trash, right? I mean, Dr. Mu commented on her great power even in doll form, and it was enough to make Goku switch from offense to defense. I just think she should be flirting closely but still behind.

Also, might I ask what your GT multipliers are? I have my own but I want to see if they are appropriate.

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

SSJ2 Vegeta (Shadow Dragons)

SSJ2 Gohan (Baby Arc)

SSJ2 Goten (Baby Arc)

SSJ2 Goku (M2)

SSJ2 Trunks (2nd Baby Encounter)

 

[Six Trails]

Not complete trash, but not relevant to Goku or Trunks. If you're looking for specific numbers, I have her 1/3rd of Base Trunks for what it's worth.

Super Saiyan: 2.5x base
Super Saiyan 2: 1.25x SS
Super Saiyan 3: 2x SS2
Golden Great Ape = Super Saiyan 4: potential unlock

 

[SSJ3 Gothic]

Thanks man. I actually have Pan higher than that, but I do think shaving a tiny bit off would be wise. And my multipliers are different yet I was in the same ballpark. That helps me know I'm not way off base...no pun intended.

 

[Six Trails]

Alternatively, SS2 could be 1.5x SS and SS3 could be 3x SS2, but Super Saiyan is most appropriate at 2.5x base in my opinion. It fits perfectly with Rild's comment.

 

[SSJ3 Gothic]

Alternatively, SS2 could be 1.5x SS and SS3 could be 3x SS2, but Super Saiyan is most appropriate at 2.5x base in my opinion. It fits perfectly with Rild's comment.

I went with

SSJ: 1.5x base
SSJ2: 2x SSJ
SSJ3: 2x SSJ2

Not finished yet though.

 

[Six Trails]

Well, Rild said SS was > 2x base, unless you believe Base Goku was suppressed against Rild.

 

[SSJ3 Gothic]

Well, Rild said SS was > 2x base, unless you believe Base Goku was suppressed against Rild.

I'm getting to that part soon on the dvd, so I don't have the exact wording yet. Doesn't he make the assumption before the transformation?