Do you feel things are over explained in Super?

[ahill1]

To me, it feels whenever a character does something more obscure there's another one narrating the entire process to us.

In the manga, I mean.

 

[Future Warrior]

Yes, and it happens in the anime as well.

 

[ahill1]

Sure. The anime seemed less notable to me, but in the manga the characters narrate every step to us.

 

[Warmmedown]

Yes because it's crap so they have the characters tell you it's amazing. Instant 100% on Rotten Tomatoes.

 

[ahill1]

nah it wouldn't hit even the 30% on rotten tomatoes

 

[Warmmedown]

First reviewers are the cast members going "Oh woah!" "Sugoi!" so it would for 10 min.

 

[Keedounan]

Yep. It's sometimes exaggerated to the point that the characters literally repeat what has just been explained to them.

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[ahill1]

lol Goku using SSJB to fight that boomer

 

[Boo Brand Milk]

The banter is necessary, the shit's confusing enough.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Super is bizarre in that useless garbage is often over explained, or some boring technique. Usually the explanations make no sense and are quickly discarded after their use. However, occasionally some pretty important plot point will barely have a word to it and were forced to make guesses on what the fuck happened.

 

[SSJ2]

Yep, and the dialogue used is absolutely abhorrent. Characters speak as though they have never witnessed a fight before and have to dumb down everything that is happening. Fight scenes would be slightly more tolerable if you could just view the action without Gayhan or Niggolo injecting some low IQ commentary in every 5 seconds.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I'd say the issue is less so the verbose explanations and more how they're given. For instance, Whis explaining that Vegeta was using less than 10% of his SSB Ki against Hit would be fine if he wasn't explaining it to Beerus, someone who can sense God Ki and should've spent enough time with the transformed Goku and Vegeta to know how the form works. This is a good example to use as the dialogue presented in it is also very stilted and unnatural that make its role as needless exposition obvious. The contrast is apparent when you consider how exposition was delivered in the original manga, where Toriyama took attention to delivering it to characters who wouldn't know the information and the dialogue actually held a purpose beyond padding. The way it's delivered in Super that often comes down to characters stating the obvious is less of a necessity in information and more akin to parody in how it's very much the strawman people give to Shonen anime dialogue done unironically. Like a lot of issues in Super, I'd say this partially stems from Super being influenced by the trends of newer series rather than looking at what worked and what didn't in the source material.

 

[ahill1]

I'd say the issue is less so the verbose explanations and more how they're given. For instance, Whis explaining that Vegeta was using less than 10% of his SSB Ki against Hit would be fine if he wasn't explaining it to Beerus, someone who can sense God Ki and should've spent enough time with the transformed Goku and Vegeta to know how the form works. This is a good example to use as the dialogue presented in it is also very stilted and unnatural that make its role as needless exposition obvious. The contrast is apparent when you consider how exposition was delivered in the original manga, where Toriyama took attention to delivering it to characters who wouldn't know the information and the dialogue actually held a purpose beyond padding. The way it's delivered in Super that often comes down to characters stating the obvious is less of a necessity in information and more akin to parody in how it's very much the strawman people give to Shonen anime dialogue done unironically. Like a lot of issues in Super, I'd say this partially stems from Super being influenced by the trends of newer series rather than looking at what worked and what didn't in the source material.

How would you caompare that to the expositions given in One Piece? One Piece also tends to overexplain things moreso than the original DB to me but they don't feel as forced as in Super.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

OP's exposition is definitely nowhere near as bad as Super's though can still be pretty bad after the timeskip compared to the original DB manga when so many things that are overexplained end up being unimportant (eg. explaining a group strategy only for Luffy to charge in like a reckless idiot).