Does Anime #17 have to far above SSJ3 Goku?

[Animelover5487]

I mean I don't really see any solid evidence to suggest 17 is any stronger than his manga counterpart, slightly-to-moderatly above SSJ3 tier. All of 17's feats against Toppo and Jiren are clear outliers and are too inconsistent to say that is actually his power level. One episode he is taking hits from Jiren better than Kaioken x20 SSB Goku and in another episode he is being out performed by tired Base Goku and Final Form Freeza. How can you call him Blue tier when his feats are inconsistent like that? I think the most consistent and reliable way to measure his battle power was in the Anilaza fight, where we know he was using his full power yet was outperformed by SSJG Goku which is in line with the manga where he is over SSJ3 but considerably under SSJG.

 

[Pyro]

I believe he could be above Super Saiyan 3 Goku in the anime to some extent (and about on par in the manga, by gawd). You hit the feats pass on the head.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

To me, he's a SSG tier to me. Both him and Gohan are way weaker than Toppo who is SSB tier.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

#17's feats in the anime point to one of two options; either he's weaker than Base Goku due to Galu holding up better than him when the U2 fighters used their black hole attack and only being a support player compared to a fatigued Goku and Freeza, or he's at least SSG tier based on the Anilasa battle and doing not much different from Gohan and Freeza against Toppo.

I mean I don't really see any solid evidence to suggest 17 is any stronger than his manga counterpart, slightly-to-moderatly above SSJ3 tier.

Manga #17 is PSSB tier going by the recent chapter.

 

[Animelover5487]

#17's feats in the anime point to one of two options; either he's weaker than Base Goku due to Galu holding up better than him when the U2 fighters used their black hole attack and only being a support player compared to a fatigued Goku and Freeza, or he's at least SSG tier based on the Anilasa battle and doing not much different from Gohan and Freeza against Toppo.

I mean I don't really see any solid evidence to suggest 17 is any stronger than his manga counterpart, slightly-to-moderatly above SSJ3 tier.

Manga #17 is PSSB tier going by the recent chapter.

What did 17 do in the recent chapter?

 

[Pyro]

He blocked a punch from Jiren or something irrelevant.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

He didn't IIRC. He was just said by Goku to be as high as them despite not training as hard, which I think I can take a little bit differently considering nothing in the ToP really changed or contradicted his previous standing. It was all very consistent.

 

[Pyro]

Oh, that too. I thought people were talking about an actual feat.