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I mean I don't really see any solid evidence to suggest 17 is any stronger than his manga counterpart, slightly-to-moderatly above SSJ3 tier. All of 17's feats against Toppo and Jiren are clear outliers and are too inconsistent to say that is actually his power level. One episode he is taking hits from Jiren better than Kaioken x20 SSB Goku and in another episode he is being out performed by tired Base Goku and Final Form Freeza. How can you call him Blue tier when his feats are inconsistent like that? I think the most consistent and reliable way to measure his battle power was in the Anilaza fight, where we know he was using his full power yet was outperformed by SSJG Goku which is in line with the manga where he is over SSJ3 but considerably under SSJG.