Does current Roshi (DBS) clean the original-manga characters?

[ahill1]

Does he manage to get past Boohan and Vegetto? I'm guessing yes, considering he can avoid some punches from Jiren, and suppressed though Jiren was, he seemed to be at a level strong enough to deal with SSJB Goku...

 

[Void]

Jiren is > PSSB Galu and Jiren also let pseudo Kaio Ken PSSB Galu hit him a bunch and then bothered to block Roshi's attack.


Roshi does probably clear Z if he keeps the Mafuba bottle on him.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Anyone worth even semi-relevance to current Base Saiyan tier should be capable of soloing Z imo based on prior feats and Roshi should be such when considering he could at least block some light hits from Frost.

 

[ahill1]

Anyone worth even semi-relevance to current Base Saiyan tier should be capable of soloing Z imo based on prior feats and Roshi should be such when considering he could at least block some light hits from Frost.

And withstand a punch from Jiren :mikey :mikey

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

He managed to be the last 10 remaining members in the ToP so yeah unless there's an argument against it.

 

[Animelover5487]

He managed to be the last 10 remaining members in the ToP so yeah unless there's an argument against it.

So, Roshi is stronger than Hit, SSJ Kefla, Ultimate , etc?

The argument against it, is Kahseral (a Base Saiyan tier fighter at best) stating Roshi's battle power is low as fuck. Roshi's feats were explicitly stated to not be power related.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Oh yeah, I forgot what Kahseral just said, I guess "skills" can take you that far.

 

[Pyro]

I do not believe so. Once Jiren (very heavily suppressed, mind you) realized what the hell Roshi was doing, he popped him once and got rid of him like a pesky bug. Casserole stated Roshi still had a pathetic battle power, at least relative to the Pride Troopers, and Roshi's feat against Jiren was chalked up to be related to a proto version of Ultra Instinct, which was still a very far cry from the real thing as Whis stated—in essence, nothing Roshi did was related to his actual power. He won't be able to deal any damage to someone much stronger than him, regardless of how many times he can dodge their attacks. This is the same principle in those UI Goku vs Kaio-Ken x100 FP Jiren dumbass versus threads where people were arguing that Goku would win because he couldn't be touched, but the reality is and has proven to be that Ultra Instinct can't make up the difference in power efficiency.

tl;dr - Roshi isn't getting past Namek forces even with PUI.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

He can definitely get to somewhere in Freeza Arc without UI given earlier perfomance against Frost. With that pseudo UI he definitely solos Z IMO. He has a ton of tricks up on his sleeve to help him.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I do not believe so. Once Jiren (very heavily suppressed, mind you) realized what the hell Roshi was doing, he popped him once and got rid of him like a pesky bug. Casserole stated Roshi still had a pathetic battle power, at least relative to the Pride Troopers, and Roshi's feat against Jiren was chalked up to be related to a proto version of Ultra Instinct, which was still a very far cry from the real thing as Whis stated—in essence, nothing Roshi did was related to his actual power. He won't be able to deal any damage to someone much stronger than him, regardless of how many times he can dodge their attacks. This is the same principle in those UI Goku vs Kaio-Ken x100 FP Jiren dumbass versus threads where people were arguing that Goku would win because he couldn't be touched, but the reality is and has proven to be that Ultra Instinct can't make up the difference in power efficiency.

tl;dr - Roshi isn't getting past Namek forces even with PUI.

He can tire them out by dragging out the fight for long enough

 

[Animelover5487]

He can definitely get to somewhere in Freeza Arc without UI given earlier perfomance against Frost.

What did he do there? Block a few hits from Frost? Judging by how Frost tanked Ten's Shin Kikoho, a technique with such an amp that it was able to push back Semi Cell in one of the most effortless tanks in the whole manga since Daimao tanking Post 22nd Goku's KHH. Frost had to be holding back to a downright astronomical extent.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

What did he do there? Block a few hits from Frost? Judging by how Frost tanked Ten's Shin Kikoho, a technique with such an amp that it was able to push back Semi Cell in one of the most effortless tanks in the whole manga since Daimao tanking Post 22nd Goku's KHH. Frost had to be holding back to a downright astronomical extent.

It was only a regular Kikoho as far as I'm aware, plus Ten's shock at it not working despite having seen Frost's power in the U6 tournament should point to Ten not being astronomically weaker than him by that point.

 

[Animelover5487]

What did he do there? Block a few hits from Frost? Judging by how Frost tanked Ten's Shin Kikoho, a technique with such an amp that it was able to push back Semi Cell in one of the most effortless tanks in the whole manga since Daimao tanking Post 22nd Goku's KHH. Frost had to be holding back to a downright astronomical extent.

It was only a regular Kikoho as far as I'm aware, plus Ten's shock at it not working despite having seen Frost's power in the U6 tournament should point to Ten not being astronomically weaker than him by that point.

Frost gains were at most minimum as he is still below SSJ Goku. Ten's shock just means that he underestimated Frost, perhaps he didn't get a good feel on what Frost's power was like at the U6 tournament.

 

[Pyro]

I do not believe so. Once Jiren (very heavily suppressed, mind you) realized what the hell Roshi was doing, he popped him once and got rid of him like a pesky bug. Casserole stated Roshi still had a pathetic battle power, at least relative to the Pride Troopers, and Roshi's feat against Jiren was chalked up to be related to a proto version of Ultra Instinct, which was still a very far cry from the real thing as Whis stated—in essence, nothing Roshi did was related to his actual power. He won't be able to deal any damage to someone much stronger than him, regardless of how many times he can dodge their attacks. This is the same principle in those UI Goku vs Kaio-Ken x100 FP Jiren dumbass versus threads where people were arguing that Goku would win because he couldn't be touched, but the reality is and has proven to be that Ultra Instinct can't make up the difference in power efficiency.

tl;dr - Roshi isn't getting past Namek forces even with PUI.

He can tire them out by dragging out the fight for long enough

He'll get tired first by virtue of being much weaker.

 

[Future Warrior]

He'd get obliterated by Freeza.

 

[ahill1]

He'd get obliterated by Freeza.

Wouldn't he be able to run circles on Freeza based on him dodging Jiren though?

 

[Animelover5487]

Freeza can just blow up the planet, like he did in ROF.

 

[Jeff Styles]

He'd get obliterated by Freeza.

Wouldn't he be able to run circles on Freeza based on him dodging Jiren though?

Freeza will just rage quit lol.