Dragon Ball Super Battle Powers (Manga)

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SSJ3 Goku/Pure Boo: 5,625
SSJ Gotenks (Pre): 7,500
Gotenks (Post): 15,000
~ SSJ: 37,500
~ SSJ3: 150,000
Chou Gohan: 250,000
Super Boo: 150,000
~ +Gotenks: 300,000
~ +Gohan: 400,000
Vegetto: 360,000
~ SSJ: 900,000
~ SSJ3: 3,600,000


Battle of Gods
Goku: 2,400
~ SSJ: 6,000
~ SSJ2: 12,000
~ SSJ3: 24,000

SSJ3 Gotenks: 150,000
Chou Gohan: 250,000

SSJ2 Vegeta (Enraged): 360,000

Beerus (Vs Z Fighters): 400,000
~ Powered up: 200,000,000

SSJG Goku: 200,000,000


FnF
Goku/Vegeta: 8,000,000
~ SSJ: 20,000,000
~ SSJ2: 40,000,000
~ SSJ3 (Goku only): 80,000,000
~ SSJG: 240,000,000
~ SSJB: 300,000,000

Freeza (1st form): 1,000,000
~ True Form: 7,500,000
~ Golden: 375,000,000


U6 Tournament
Goku/Vegeta: 9,000,000
~ SSJ: 22,500,000
~ SSJ2: 45,000,000
~ SSJ3: 90,000,000
~ SSJG: 270,000,000
~ SSJB: 337,500,000

Botamo: 4,500,000

Frost: 7,200,000
~ 2nd form: 10,800,000
~ True Form: 16,200,000

Piccolo: 13,500,000

Magetta: 9,000,000

Cabba: 8,000,000
~ SSJ: 20,000,000

SSJB Vegeta (<10%): 27,000,000

Hit (Suppressed): 21,600,000
~ Full Power: 270,000,000


Black Arc
Goku/Vegeta: 10,000,000
~ SSJ: 25,000,000
~ SSJ2: 50,000,000
~ SSJ3 (Goku only): 100,000,000
~ SSJG: 300,000,000
~ SSJB: 375,000,000

Trunks: 10,500,000
~ SSJ: 26,250,000
~ SSJ2: 52,500,000
~ Enhanced SSJ2: 94,500,000

Black: 120,000,000
~ Full Power: 135,000,000
~ SSJ: 180,000,000

SSJ2 Vegeta (Enhanced): 200,000,000
~ SSJB: 375,000,000

SSJ Black (Zenkai): 412,500,000
~ SSJRosé: 500,000,000

Zamasu: 75,000,000

SSJG Vegeta (Post Rosat): 500,000,000
~ SSJB: 625,000,000

Merged Zamasu: 1,000,000,000
~ Powered up: 1,500,000,000

Vegerot: 100,000,000
~ SSJ: 250,000,000
~ SSJ2: 500,000,000
~ SSJ3: 1,000,000,000
~ SSJG: 3,000,000,000
~ SSJB: 3,750,000,000

CSSJB Goku: 1,500,000,000

Beerus: 3,600,000,000


ToP
Goku/Vegeta: 20,000,000
~ SSJ: 50,000,00
~ SSJ2: 100,000,000
~ SSJ3: 200,000,000
~ SSJG: 600,000,000
~ SSJB: 750,000,000
~ CSSJB: 1,500,000,000

Toppo: 1,500,000,000

Cyborg 17: 200,000,000

Haikaishins: ~3,000,000,000

Beerus/Quitela: 3,600,000,000
 

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A few problems with the list:

GreatSaiyaman123 said:
This is my 1st attemp to do an accurate list. Please give feedback and critics.

Following GT's nerf, SSJs who wield SSJ3 power have nerfed multipliers.
SSJ: 2.5x
SSJ2: 3.75x
SSJ3: 7.5x
SSJG (1st transformation): Buffs saiyan to God Tier
SSJG (Used): 25x
SSJB: 37.5x

If SSJ3 was a 7.5x increase in power than there is no fucking way Goku wouldn't have given up on Super Saiyan in favor of Kaio Ken. It just completely breaks the list down from the fundamentals.

Final Form Freeza: 150,000
Goku: 150,000
Vegeta: 150,000

Finial Form Freeza was implied to be as strong as SSJ Goku in the ROF arc.
 

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Fearless Super said:
So Goku is still weaker than Gohan and Gotenks? :ladd

It's never implied he's the strongest, so...
Pocket - Gog~ said:
A few problems with the list:

GreatSaiyaman123 said:
This is my 1st attemp to do an accurate list. Please give feedback and critics.

Following GT's nerf, SSJs who wield SSJ3 power have nerfed multipliers.
SSJ: 2.5x
SSJ2: 3.75x
SSJ3: 7.5x
SSJG (1st transformation): Buffs saiyan to God Tier
SSJG (Used): 25x
SSJB: 37.5x

If SSJ3 was a 7.5x increase in power than there is no fucking way Goku wouldn't have given up on Super Saiyan in favor of Kaio Ken. It just completely breaks the list down from the fundamentals.

Final Form Freeza: 150,000
Goku: 150,000
Vegeta: 150,000

Finial Form Freeza was implied to be as strong as SSJ Goku in the ROF arc.

1) Because Kaioken has strain, or whatever was the reason for Goku to don't use it on GT.

2) When this is implied? All Freeza does is fight evenly with base Goku.
 

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1) Because Kaioken has strain, or whatever was the reason for Goku to don't use it on GT.

2) When this is implied? All Freeza does is fight evenly with base Goku.

1) Kaio Ken only starts fucking with the body around x20, even at 10x it's still far better than SSJ3 which is a terrible form. GT's really dumb in that regard, and there was no reason why Goku didn't use Kaio Ken besides Merchandise.

2) It was implied Freeza was holding back.
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Fearless Super said:
So Goku is still weaker than Gohan and Gotenks? :ladd

It's never implied he's the strongest, so...

Goku said the Earth is in danger when Beerus was heading there. Now the question is, why would the Earth be in danger when there are fighters who are supposedly stronger than Goku like 5x? Also why is Gotenks stronger than Gohan again?
 

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Not a lot I disagree with on here. Personally I would have Base Vegeta and Base Cabba much closer. But it's close enough to where it could still be a good fight, so that's just me there. Otherwise I'd say maybe adjust Future Trunks's SS2 power. He didn't seem to be suppressed against SS2 Goku, Whis said that he had the edge as well so they shouldn't be equals. I don't think it should be by much either.
 

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Fearless Super said:
GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Fearless Super said:
So Goku is still weaker than Gohan and Gotenks? :ladd

It's never implied he's the strongest, so...

Goku said the Earth is in danger when Beerus was heading there. Now the question is, why would the Earth be in danger when there are fighters who are supposedly stronger than Goku like 5x? Also why is Gotenks stronger than Gohan again?

Maybe he made a guess based on Beerus feats? Even on EoZ Goku didn't close the gap between him and Super Buu, forgot about BoGs.

Remember the trash Gohan is on FnF? The timeskip between BoGs and FnF is smaller than the timeskip between Buu Arc and BoGs. I'm not even sure if he should be above Goku tbh.

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Not a lot I disagree with on here. Personally I would have Base Vegeta and Base Cabba much closer. But it's close enough to where it could still be a good fight, so that's just me there. Otherwise I'd say maybe adjust Future Trunks's SS2 power. He didn't seem to be suppressed against SS2 Goku, Whis said that he had the edge as well so they shouldn't be equals. I don't think it should be by much either.

Trunks actually was suppressed at SSJ2 Goku since his max was almost equal to SSJ3 Goku. And i belive the edge was skill-wise, and not in raw power.
 

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Fearless Super said:
GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Fearless Super said:
So Goku is still weaker than Gohan and Gotenks? :ladd

It's never implied he's the strongest, so...

Goku said the Earth is in danger when Beerus was heading there. Now the question is, why would the Earth be in danger when there are fighters who are supposedly stronger than Goku like 5x? Also why is Gotenks stronger than Gohan again?
Goku can guesstimate latent power.

/thread
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Fearless Super said:
GreatSaiyaman123 said:
It's never implied he's the strongest, so...

Goku said the Earth is in danger when Beerus was heading there. Now the question is, why would the Earth be in danger when there are fighters who are supposedly stronger than Goku like 5x? Also why is Gotenks stronger than Gohan again?

Maybe he made a guess based on Beerus feats? Even on EoZ Goku didn't close the gap between him and Super Buu, forgot about BoGs.

Remember the trash Gohan is on FnF? The timeskip between BoGs and FnF is smaller than the timeskip between Buu Arc and BoGs. I'm not even sure if he should be above Goku tbh.

Yamcha said:
Not a lot I disagree with on here. Personally I would have Base Vegeta and Base Cabba much closer. But it's close enough to where it could still be a good fight, so that's just me there. Otherwise I'd say maybe adjust Future Trunks's SS2 power. He didn't seem to be suppressed against SS2 Goku, Whis said that he had the edge as well so they shouldn't be equals. I don't think it should be by much either.

Trunks actually was suppressed at SSJ2 Goku since his max was almost equal to SSJ3 Goku. And i belive the edge was skill-wise, and not in raw power.
That wasn't a suppressed Super Saiyan 2 though. He never refers to it that way, he says that he couldn't settle alone for this power. Meaning that it was a normal Super Saiyan 2 and then he used a much more powerful version of Super Saiyan 2.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
Fearless Super said:
GreatSaiyaman123 said:
It's never implied he's the strongest, so...

Goku said the Earth is in danger when Beerus was heading there. Now the question is, why would the Earth be in danger when there are fighters who are supposedly stronger than Goku like 5x? Also why is Gotenks stronger than Gohan again?
Goku can guesstimate latent power.

/thread

Or Goku is the strongest and since he got beat up then there's none on Earth can stop Beerus? :idk
 

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Or Beerus was using a level that was above Ultimate Gohan when he fought SS3 Goku...
 

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Well yeah, Dabura was fighting evenly against SSjin Gohan [Or SSjin2 lol] who is on par with Supressed Cell at very least. That's not hard to find out.
 

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Yamcha said:
GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Fearless Super said:
Goku said the Earth is in danger when Beerus was heading there. Now the question is, why would the Earth be in danger when there are fighters who are supposedly stronger than Goku like 5x? Also why is Gotenks stronger than Gohan again?

Maybe he made a guess based on Beerus feats? Even on EoZ Goku didn't close the gap between him and Super Buu, forgot about BoGs.

Remember the trash Gohan is on FnF? The timeskip between BoGs and FnF is smaller than the timeskip between Buu Arc and BoGs. I'm not even sure if he should be above Goku tbh.

Yamcha said:
Not a lot I disagree with on here. Personally I would have Base Vegeta and Base Cabba much closer. But it's close enough to where it could still be a good fight, so that's just me there. Otherwise I'd say maybe adjust Future Trunks's SS2 power. He didn't seem to be suppressed against SS2 Goku, Whis said that he had the edge as well so they shouldn't be equals. I don't think it should be by much either.

Trunks actually was suppressed at SSJ2 Goku since his max was almost equal to SSJ3 Goku. And i belive the edge was skill-wise, and not in raw power.
That wasn't a suppressed Super Saiyan 2 though. He never refers to it that way, he says that he couldn't settle alone for this power. Meaning that it was a normal Super Saiyan 2 and then he used a much more powerful version of Super Saiyan 2.

Something like the SSJ2 Vegeta used against Black? Yeah, i can see it.

Fearless Super said:
Well yeah, Dabura was fighting evenly against SSjin Gohan [Or SSjin2 lol] who is on par with Supressed Cell at very least. That's not hard to find out.

That's before the fight. Right before Yakon arrives.
 

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Let's see, what did Dabura do that makes him as strong as Cell? Nothing other than he killed Kibito and turned Piccolo and Krillin into stones. We have two choice here, either he sensed Dabura's power or he's just making prediction. :idk
 

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Fearless Super said:
Let's see, what did Dabura do that makes him as strong as Cell? Nothing other than he killed Kibito and turned Piccolo and Krillin into stones. We have two choice here, either he sensed Dabura's power or he's just making prediction. :idk

He speedblitzed everybody. Goku knows how fast Cell is. If he was making a guess he'd say instead of saying "He is about the same as Cell".
 

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Speed =/= Ki and they can be altered like Cell. Dabura could be as fast as Cell but that doesn't mean he's as strong as Cell. Also in the context, Goku clearly talks about Dabura's power as same as Cell therefore he probably sensed him is the only way to know Dabura's power.
 

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