Dragon Ball Super Tier List (Manga)

[Captain Cadaver]

As per 's request in the Challenge Thread. http://www.dbzeta.net/viewtopic.php?p=311999#p311999

Simply post your tier list and discuss with others their's here. Manga-only, so that it's not a mess of trying to deal with a medium that contradicts itself on an episodic basis.

Mine:

Tier 0 - Zen-Oh tier

Zen-Oh

Tier 1 - Angel Tier

Daishinkan
Whis, Vados and other Angels

Tier 2 - Hakaishin Tier

SSB Vegetto
Beerus
Quitela
Rumoosh
Champa
Ultra Instinct Goku
Full Power Jiren
Belmod
Mosco
Heles
Liquiir
Ultra Instinct: Sign Goku/Jiren (Close to full power)
Geene
Arak
Iwan
Sidra

Tier 3 - Perfected Super Saiyan Blue Tier

Jiren (2nd Power Up)
SSBE Vegeta
Psuedo Kaioken PSSB Goku
Ultimate Gohan (ToP)/SSJ Kefla
Jiren (Powered up against Hit)
Initial Jiren
ToP Hit
Toppo (Powered Up)
PSSB Goku/Vegeta
Golden Freeza (ToP)
Merged Zamasu
LSSJ Kale (Peak)
Toppo
LSSJ Kale (Initial)
#17

Tier 4 - Super Saiyan Blue Tier

Base Vegetto
SSB Goku/Vegeta (bursts)
SSR Goku Black
SSB Goku/Vegeta (U6 Arc and onwards)
Golden Freeza
SSB Goku/Vegeta (FnF Arc)

Tier 5 - Super Saiyan God Tier

Post-Zenkai SSJ Goku Black and SSB Vegeta (Loss of Shoki)
Full Power Hit (U6 Arc)
SSG Goku/Vegeta (U6 Arc and onwards)
Beerus (vs. Goku)
SSG Goku (BoG Arc)
Dyspo

Tier 5 - Current Super Saiyan 3 Tier

Enhanced SS2 Vegeta
SSJ Goku Black
Base Goku Black
SS3 Goku
Enhanced SS2 Future Trunks
Anilasa

Tier 6 - Current Super Saiyan 2 Tier

SS2 Future Trunks
SS2 Goku/Vegeta
Zamasu

Tier 7 - Current Super Saiyan Tier

Nigrisshi/Panchia
Less than 10% SSB Vegeta
Magetta
SSJ Future Trunks
SSJ Goku/Vegeta
Initial Hit
SSJ Caulifla
SSJ Cabba
True form Freeza (Current)
True form Frost
Piccolo
Hyssop
Comfrey
Obuni
Base Gohan (ToP)
Bergamo
Lavender/Basil

Tier 8 - Current Base Tier and lower

#18
Ribrianne
Base Future Trunks
Base Goku/Vegeta (U6 Arc and onwards)
Non-Top 3 Pride Troopers
3rd form Frost
Initial Beerus
Enraged SS2 Vegeta
SS3 Vegetto (BoG Arc)
Base Goku/Vegeta (FnF Arc)
Base Caulifla
Base Cabba
Kuririn (ToP)
Tenshinhan (ToP)
Roshi (ToP)
1st form Frost
Botamo

Tier 9 - Boo Arc God Tier
Vegetto (Boo Arc, SSJ/SS2/SS3)

Tier 10 - Boo Arc Top Tier
Gohan Boo
Gotenks Boo
Ultimate Gohan
SS3 Gotenks
SS3 Goku (Pre-God)

 

[Keedounan]

This list is on point ! I thought there'd be something I disagree with, but nope. Good job, CC.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Great list. Just skimmed though that now and seems right to me. Only thing how broad are the tiers? Seems very broad. You put for example Gotenks and Gohan-Boo in the same tier or Super-Saiyan and Super-Saiyan 2 Vegetto in the same one.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Great list. Just skimmed though that now and seems right to me. Only thing how broad are the tiers? Seems very broad. You put for example Gotenks and Gohan-Boo in the same tier or Super-Saiyan and Super-Saiyan 2 Vegetto in the same one.

It all depends on how relevant it is overall in terms of the events of the manga and how they stack up as a whole in Super. Pretty much all the Boo Arc top tiers are Low/Bottom tier by Super standards, so there's little reason not to lump them all together.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I don't think there's much I can say, that I find weird. Maybe Daishinkan being in the same tiers as the Angels, but bring implied to be way above them but that's fine since you're probably using that same rule there.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Actually what's true Golden Freeza?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I don't think there's much I can say, that I find weird. Maybe Daishinkan being in the same tiers as the Angels, but bring implied to be way above them but that's fine since you're probably using that same rule there.

Pretty much. All we know about him is that he can stomp Whis, but by how much above him he really is isn't elaborated on. Would feel meaningless to give him his own tier without the feats for him to back it up.

Actually what's true Golden Freeza?

It's what he called himself when in his Golden form in the ToP Arc, so rolling with that terminology seems appropriate for that version of himself.

 

[Papasmurf]

Couldn't Future Zamasu be added to just below ESSJ2 Trunks? Galu didn't make the gap between the two seem very big, and he turned SSJG to fight that Zamasu after all.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Him turning SSG could've just been a precaution for Zamasu being able to paralyse him whilst being able to attack. As for Future Trunks, that could be the case if we knew whether or not Trunks' version of the form works the same as his dad's, seeing as how even by Super standards Trunks having developed such a convenient version of SS2 seems too much of a major asspull.
Whilst Goku not saying "far stronger" could warrant me boosting Zamasu's ranking, I don't think it's solid enough for me to bother placing him differently from where the anime portrayed his present self as being, especially when Goku deemed SSJ as enough to fight him with in the first fight before Zamasu brought out the paralysis.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Why is Sidara not treated as fodder God in the manga? That's kind-of good.

 

[Papasmurf]

Zamasu had a rod through the stomach when Galu powered down to SSJ though. Plus Galu avoids his telekinesis even as a SSJG, which I doubt would be of that much threat to him if he were just on regular SSJ2 tier.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Why is Sidara not treated as fodder God in the manga? That's kind-of good.

The Hakaishin battle royale seemed to imply he had the best defensive abilities amongst his peers, plus he wasn't oneshotted by Belmod. Still likely the weakest Hakaishin, but not by leagues.

Zamasu had a rod through the stomach when Galu powered down to SSJ though.

It still seems perplexing that Goku would still maintain a powered up form rather than reverting to base if he believed himself to have dealt a fatal wound.

It's also worth noting that Zamasu admits how physically powerless he is compared to "you all", with the wording of this seeming to imply he was factoring Trunks into that equation as well.

 

[Papasmurf]

He later seemed pretty confident when Trunks said he could stall him and even claimed he was underestimated, which makes me think he doesn't think of himself as much weaker than Trunks. (Also, I'm pretty sure in Japanese he uses the more vague term "omae-tachi" or something like that.) Plus, in regards to Galu maintaining SSJ, it seems he had no intention to kill Zamasu (even saying it wasn't too late) and probably planned to heal him with the Senzu after Zamasu surrenders considering Galu's disdain for killing his enemies.

 

[SSJ2]

Why is SSJB Vegetto so high? I thought he was decently matched for MZ..

 

[Papasmurf]

Why is SSJB Vegetto so high? I thought he was decently matched for MZ..

Anime only. In the manga Zamasu was at best 2-3x stronger than the SSJBs.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Why is SSJB Vegetto so high? I thought he was decently matched for MZ..

What Kenshi said. It's the list for the manga continuity, where SSB Vegetto stomped Zamasu as easily as he did Boo and was stated to be above Beerus.

 

[SSJ2]

I conveniently stopped reading the thread title after "tier".

 

[Fantastische Hure]

What's with Loss of Shoki Vegeta? IIRC he just lost to Super-Saiyan Goku-Black in a straight-up fight. Vegeta was at a disadvantage but they still traded blows.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

What's with Loss of Shoki Vegeta? IIRC he just lost to Super-Saiyan Goku-Black in a straight-up fight. Vegeta was at a disadvantage but they still traded blows.

It's due to a few factors I believe his performance was down to a loss in Shoki (Right Mindset), one of the 3 integral components of Ki.

1. Goku's words during the rematch emphasise Vegeta's performance being due to using SSB in bursts and any training gains he made being an afterthought, suggesting that if he got any stronger from the Rosat, it wasn't by much.

2. Following on from that, both Goku and Vegeta performed about equal against Merged Zamasu, or if anything Goku performed better, despite Vegeta having got in an extra training session.

3. The key factor to this belief; Vegeta's words when Black goes SSR. Vegeta's only reaction is to just tell Goku to deal with Zamasu so Black can't be healed, rather than being in any way intimidated by the fact that someone who matched him in SSB got even stronger. As such, I'd base SSB Vegeta's performance against SSJ Black on his Shoki depleting due to his frustration that Black was just going to get healed after each beatdown.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

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