Dragonball Only Levels (No Z!)

[p123]

In an effort to focus on the earlier part of the manga, I have separated Dragonball from my total list to further discussion here...


Son Goku Saga



Pterodactyl .012
Bear Bandit .015
Krillin .030
Yamcha .045
Ox King .100

Goku (W/o Tail) .040
~ W/ Tail .050
~ Great Ape .500

Master Roshi .150
~ Power Weighted .900
~ Power Weighted Kamehameha 1.350




21st Budokai Tenkaichi



Orin Temple Bullies .045

Yamcha .060
~ Wolf Fang Fist .070

Giran .090

Krillin (Initial) .075
~ Full Power .100

Namu .140

Goku (W/o Tail) .120
~ W/ Tail .150
~ Kamehameha .200
~ Great Ape 1.500

Jackie Chun (Initial) .080
~ Using Effort .100
~ Full Power .150
~ Kamehameha .200
~ Powered Weighted .900
~ Power Weighted Kamehameha 1.800




Red Ribbon Army Saga



Colonel Silver .075
Ninja Murasaki .100
Pirate Robot .120
Sergeant Metallic .125
Bora .130
General Blue .135
Android #8 .200

Goku (Muscle Tower) .160
~ Post Muscle Tower .180
~ Kamehameha .240

Tao Pai Pai (Initial) .350
~ Full Power .450

Goku (Post Korin Training) .500




Baba's Tournament



Dracula Man .040
Invisible Man .050

Yamcha .060
~ Wolf Fang Fist .070

Krillin .100

Master Roshi .150

Mummy .175

Devil Man .300

Gohan .475

Goku (Initial) .275
~ Powered Up .350
~ Full Power .500




22nd Tenkaichi Budokai



Pamput .200

King Chappa .550

Chaozu .600

Yamcha .600
~ Wolf Fang Fist .725
~ Kamehameha .800

Krillin .625
~ Kamehameha .750

Master Shen 1.000

Jackie Chun (Initial) .900
~ Powered Up 1.100
~ Full Power (Unseen) 1.400

Tien (Initial) .600
~ Powered Up .750
~ Powered Up Further .900
~ Powered Up Further 1.100
~ Powered Up Further 1.500
~ Full Power 2.200

Goku (Initial) .650
~ Powered Up .900
~ Max Tournament Level 1.500
~ Battle Level 2.250




Piccolo Daimao Saga



Cymbal 1.250

Yajirobe 1.500

Tambourine 1.750

Goku (Fatigued) 1.500
~ Holding Back 1.600
~ Full Power 2.500
~ Zenkai 3.000

Piccolo Daimao (Initial) 2.300
~ Less than Half 7.000
~ Full Power (Unseen) 17.500




Piccolo Daimao Saga Part 2



Tien 2.200

Drum (Initial) 3.000
~ Full Power 3.500

Shenron 20.000

Piccolo Daimao (Initial) 27.500
~ Full Power 45.000

Goku (Initial) 30.000
~ Full Power 47.500




Meeting God



Goku 50.000

Mr. Popo 75.000

Kami 150.000




23rd Tenkaichi Budokai



King Chappa .750

Chaozu 22.500

Yajirobe 25.000

Chichi 27.500

Cyborg Tao Pai Pai 30.000

Yamcha 35.000

Krillin 37.500

Tien (Initial Speed/Power) 50.000/60.000
~ Full Speed/Power 60.000

Hero (Initial) 50.000
~ Full Power 120.000

Kami 150.000

Piccolo (Initial) 40.000
~ Powered Up 45.000
~ Powered Up Further 200.000
~ Full Power 250.000

Goku (Weighted Speed/Power) 50.000/60.000
~ W/o Weights (Initial) 90.000
~ Powered Up 200.000
~ Full Power 250.000
~ Super Kamehameha 375.000

 

[SSJ2]

What do you make of the statement saying Tambourine is several times stronger than Cymbal?

 

[p123]

Kaioken x2 is many, many times stronger than Base.

 

[SSJ2]

I think the wording would be different if the difference between them was < 2x.

 

[p123]

So shouldn't the wording be different with KKx2 and Base? Shouldn't it be that it multiplies your power two fold instead of many, many times?

 

[SSJ2]

Well, we do find out later that Kaioken increases at minimum by 2x.. I figure if Kaioken capped out at 2x, the statement would read...

Goku: “Yeah. It’s called Kaio-Ken! [ ] You control all the ki in your body…momentarily amplifying it. If you get it right, then your power, speed, destructive force, and defensive force all become many times greater… double”

 

[p123]

Counter- Goku was never supposed to go above 2 fold. Lol

 

[SSJ2]

But he could, and he knew it was possible to.

Regardless, this is a small detail. Do you have a problem with someone making the Cymbal - Tambourine gap > 2x?

 

[p123]

Of course not, just saying that's one of the few issues in the manga that are really worded badly. I think it's more important to go off of the Cymbal vs Yajirobe vs Goku stuff, but that's a mess as well. It's a free for all. Cymbal probably shouldn't even be included.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

What's up with Tambourine being >2x Cymbal? Cymbal was never implied to be strong at all.

 

[p123]

Cymbal seems to hold up pretty decently against Yajirobe, who holds up decently against Goku, who obliterated Tambourine.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Yajirobe was warming up though. Once he got serious Cymbal was one shoted.

P, what's your reasoning for Chaozu and Yajirobe being that high? Tao casually one shoted Chaozu and it wasn't even imprwssive for the Z Fighters.

 

[p123]

Yajirobe seemed to avoid Cymbal's ki blast attacks like they'd damage him. I don't think it's a huge gap between the two. Yajirobe looks like he is going to shit himself when he sees Goku vs Tambourine. There's some funny stuff going with that chain.

How big do you think the gap is between Chaozu and Cyborg Tao Pai Pai?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Dunno. Though it's probably higher than Goku/Ginyus. I don't think Tao had to put any effort to one shot Chaozu like that.

 

[p123]

We didn't see it. Do they specifically say he was taken out in one shot? If so, I'd make it a 2x gap... Good point.

 

[SSJ2]

It looks like a one shot to me. Chaozu is seen trying to use his paralysis and then is instantly on the floor unconscious after one blow. Tao-Pai-Pai even said he was holding back actually.

 

[p123]

Anime or Manga?

 

[SSJ2]

Manga. The blow is not seen, but there is a destinctive "thud" like noise the panel before Chaozu is seen dead. The panel before the sound effect, he was using his paralysis in good shape. It looked to me like he got whacked hard, straight out cold.

 

[p123]

Ok I'll check it out and make Chaozu half of Tao. I guess I'm going with Yajirobe > Chaozu here then...

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Not bad. I think you haxed Match Level/Battle Level too much (but we already discussed this elsewhere)
and Kami-FP Goku/Piccolo gap should be larger.