DragonBall Tier-List

[Fantastische Hure]

I give credit to Kyouks for a lot of this thread, because I saw one of his lists and used it as a guide kind-of to help me make this list. That helped me A LOT, so yeah credit to Kyouks for a lot of this.

Other than that, there is also some-things that might be hard to do with power-level lists or numbers, but since this is a tier-list I could do it the way I wanted to, without being bothered by numbers or restrictiveness, and just go by what's implied in the story.

So yeah

Spoiler

Tier 0

Goku (23rd Tenkaichi-Budokai)/Piccolo Jr.

Tier 1

Kami
Shen

Tier 2

Mr. Popo

Tier 3

Tenshinhan (23rd Tenkaichi-Budokai)
Goku (post-Super-God-Water)
Piccolo-Daimao (Young)

Tier 4

Kuririn (23rd Tenkaichi-Budokai)
Yamcha (23rd Tenkaichi-Budokai)

Tier 5

Tao-Pai-Pai (Cyborg)
Piccolo-Daimao (Young; Initial)

Tier 6

Chi-Chi
Piccolo-Daimao (Old)
Chaozu (23rd Tenkaichi-Budokai)

Tier 7

Piccolo-Daimao (< 50%)

Tier 8

Drum
Goku (post-Tambourine-Zenkai)
Piccolo-Daimao (Initial)

Tier 9

Karin
Master-Mutaito
Goku (Match-Level; post-Tambourine-Zenkai)
Yajirobe

Tier 10

Master-Roshi (Young)/Tsuru-Sennin (Young)
Goku (22nd Tenkaichi-Budokai)
Tenshinhan (22nd Tenkaichi-Budokai)

Tier 11

Tambourine
Goku (Match-Level; 22nd Tenkaichi-Budokai)
Master-Roshi (22nd Tenkaichi-Budokai)

Tier 12

Chapa-o (23rd Tenkaichi-Budokai)
Tsuru-Sennin

Tier 13

Cymbal

Tier 14

Kuririn (22nd Tenkaichi-Budokai)
Yamcha (22nd Tenkaichi-Budokai)
Chaozu (22nd Tenkaichi-Budokai)
Chapa-o (22nd Tenkaichi-Budokai)

Tier 15

Goku (post-Karin-Training)
Grandpa Gohan
Battle-Jacket
Tao-Pai-Pai

Tier 16

Akkuman
Android #8

Tier 17

Mummy-kun
Goku (post 21st Tenkaichi-Budokai)

Tier 18

Goku (21st Tenkaichi-Budokai)/Master-Roshi (21st Tenkaichi-Budokai)
Nam
General Blue
Metallic

Tier 19

Pirate-Robot
Goku (21st Tenkaichi-Budokai; w/o Tail)
Kuririn (21st Tenkaichi-Budokai)
Ninja Murasaki

Tier 20

Giran
Gyumao

Tier 21

Yamcha (21st Tenkaichi-Budokai)
Suke-San
Bacterian

Tier 22

Dracula-Man
Goku (Beginning of DragonBall)
Yamcha (Beginning of DragonBall)
Goku (Beginning of DragonBall; Hungry)
Oorin-Temple Seniors

Tier 23

Goku (Beginning of DragonBall; w/o Tail)

Tier 24

Kuririn (Initial)
Colonel Silver

Tier 25

Bear-Bandit

 

[withheldforprivacy]

1. I have Cyborg Tao at Old Piccolo level.
2. Chichi is nowhere near Old Piccolo.
3. Goku didn't get a zenkai from Tambourine.
4. I don't agree with Cymbal's/22nd TB Chappa's placements, but we've already discussed this, so whatever.
5. Is Akkuman the Devil? I don't think he's the same tier as Eight. He was implied to be greatly above Pre
Water Goku. Eight could be just a little above that Goku.
6. I'd place Pirate Robot at Tier 18; Goku needed a strategy to win. It reminded me of Vegeta vs Monster
Zarbon (round 2).
7. Ninja was one shotted once Goku decided it. Place him lower.
8. Is Gyumao Chichi's father? Place him above 21st TB Krillin. It was stated he was Roshi's best student and
that was not contradicted when Roshi fought Krillin.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

1. I have Cyborg Tao at Old Piccolo level.

kewl

2. Chichi is nowhere near Old Piccolo.

any prove, besides u saying that???

3. Goku didn't get a zenkai from Tambourine.

it's implied, so i went with it. i think i knw that u don't believe that (tambourine defeating goku) would result in a zenkai, tho, well nothing i can do abt that. on-top of that in dragonball z there are similar situations, where zenkais rly shouldn't be happening but they did, like gohan vs 2nd form freeza.

4. I don't agree with Cymbal's/22nd TB Chappa's placements, but we've already discussed this, so whatever.

kewl

5. Is Akkuman the Devil? I don't think he's the same tier as Eight. He was implied to be greatly above Pre
Water Goku. Eight could be just a little above that Goku.

goku said his punch was incredible, a lot more incredible than wot goku himself actually did; that's wot goku said.

6. I'd place Pirate Robot at Tier 18; Goku needed a strategy to win. It reminded me of Vegeta vs Monster
Zarbon (round 2).

i think it's its toughness, more so than actual power.

7. Ninja was one shotted once Goku decided it. Place him lower.

& u think kuririn'd do any better???

8. Is Gyumao Chichi's father? Place him above 21st TB Krillin. It was stated he was Roshi's best student and that was not contradicted when Roshi fought Krillin.

grandpa gohan was his #1 student apparently

 

[withheldforprivacy]

1. any prove, besides u saying that???

2. it's implied, so i went with it. i think i knw that u don't believe that (tambourine defeating goku) would result in a zenkai, tho, well nothing i can do abt that. on-top of that in dragonball z there are similar situations, where zenkais rly shouldn't be happening but they did, like gohan vs 2nd form freeza.

3. goku said his punch was incredible, a lot more incredible than wot goku himself actually did; that's wot goku said.

1. Well, no, i just can't see her stronger than someone whose strength Korin had stated as ''not of this world''.
2. I agree we disagree, i just want to point Gohan needed healing after Freeza, whereas Goku recovered
himself.
3. Did he say ''a lot''?

 

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[Mystic]

Meng, I don't know if any of this is accurate or not, but you put the work in and I respect that. ppy

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Meng, I don't know if any of this is accurate or not, but you put the work in and I respect that. ppy

thx boi :$ :$ :$

i appreciate

ye, i was kind-of thinking whether i should post this or not & how i should do it, but i decided to post the list

& u like that

so i think that's good

thx :$ :$ :$

 

[ahill1]

Good job Fantastische Hure... I really, really like this.

So do you think Goku got a zenkai after Tambourine? I don't think but you have your reasons since you think it's implied that Roshi ( Young ) > Goku ( 22nd Budokai ). Since you think Goku had a zenkai, I think you should give more credit to Tambourine; It didn't seem that Tambourine was that weaker than Goku, since the latter was actually putting effort into his punches. What do you think of something like this?


Goku ( Post Tambourine Zenkai ) 1,250
Karin 1,200
Mutaito 1,150
Yajirobe 1,125
Roshi ( Young ) 1,050
Goku ( 22nd Budokai ) 1,000
Tenshinhan ( 22nd Budokai ) 980
Tambourine 937.5
Goku ( 22nd Budokai Match Level ) 800
Roshi ( 22nd Budokai Full Power ) 750


Tambourine being 75% of Goku seems fair enough... well but now I noticed, that's exactly where you have Tambourine lol lol lol. Overall amazing job.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Good job Fantastische Hure... I really, really like this.

So do you think Goku got a zenkai after Tambourine? I don't think but you have your reasons since you think it's implied that Roshi ( Young ) > Goku ( 22nd Budokai ). Since you think Goku had a zenkai, I think you should give more credit to Tambourine; It didn't seem that Tambourine was that weaker than Goku, since the latter was actually putting effort into his punches. What do you think of something like this?


Goku ( Post Tambourine Zenkai ) 1,250
Karin 1,200
Mutaito 1,150
Yajirobe 1,125
Roshi ( Young ) 1,050
Goku ( 22nd Budokai ) 1,000
Tenshinhan ( 22nd Budokai ) 980
Tambourine 937.5
Goku ( 22nd Budokai Match Level ) 800
Roshi ( 22nd Budokai Full Power ) 750


Tambourine being 75% of Goku seems fair enough... well but now I noticed, that's exactly where you have Tambourine lol lol lol. Overall amazing job.

thx a lot

the only things that i'd change in hind-sight might be, putting post 21st tenkaichi-budokai goku above mummy-kun & maybe put tao & young initial piccolo in different tiers (even-though i guess that's still fine)

 

[Kyo]

It all looks good to me.

Drum in the same tier as Initial Old Piccolo, is that what I'm reading? That's interesting to think about. I'd have to make a list of my own to see how that'd turn out.

Popo is the real Tier 0 though real talk.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

It all looks good to me.

Drum in the same tier as Initial Old Piccolo, is that what I'm reading? That's interesting to think about. I'd have to make a list of my own to see how that'd turn out.

Popo is the real Tier 0 though real talk.

I thought you were going to message me, that's why I didn't see this before.

Yeah, putting Drum in the same tier as Initial Piccolo I did, because on your list he was, but thinking about it I guess I could have placed Drum in his own tier above Goku & Initial Piccolo.

What do you think about Chapa-o for example? Should he be more in the same tier as Tao-Pai-Pai? Initially even Yamcha says he didn't think anyone could win so easily against him, but later his fight against Tenshinhan, and Kuririn's fight against Goku seem to put them way above him.

 

[Kyo]

I don't know. The Chapa-o situation is kind of messy. I think the level of power that Goku used to beat Chapa-o easily was probably just barely enough to beat him easily. That's really the only way you can have Kuririn somewhat rival Goku but still not be able to beat Chapa-o very easily.

Goku: 120
Kuririn: 111
Chapa-o: 100

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I don't know. The Chapa-o situation is kind of messy. I think the level of power that Goku used to beat Chapa-o easily was probably just barely enough to beat him easily. That's really the only way you can have Kuririn somewhat rival Goku but still not be able to beat Chapa-o very easily.

Goku: 120
Kuririn: 111
Chapa-o: 100

Yeah, I know you did that before. What do you make of Kuririn knowing he can win against Goku, and being so confident. Some people say it was just false confidence, but it didn't seem to me like it considering how it was portrayed.

 

[Kyo]

The only time Kuririn ever got the better of Goku was when he used some kind of trick, if I recall correctly. Like reflecting sunlight off of that cue ball head of his or inflating himself. His last resort was even Goku's tail. I think he expected his superior strategy to best Goku's superior strength.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

The only time Kuririn ever got the better of Goku was when he used some kind of trick, if I recall correctly. Like reflecting sunlight off of that cue ball head of his or inflating himself. His last resort was even Goku's tail. I think he expected his superior strategy to best Goku's superior strength.

It looks to me like he was talking about his power. He's talking about how hard he trained for Tournament, and says he can definitely win. Does he really think about strategy in that quote?


Chapter: 125, P3.3
Context: said before he fights Goku
Kuririn: “I’ve trained really hard since then too…I can definitely win! I’m gonna do this!”

Also I assume you think Goku started off at the same power he used against Chapa-o against Kuririn.

 

[Kyo]

Probably just pep talking himself if anything. No reason to resort to tricks if he's truly that confident in his strength. (His strength does matter though. If he was weak as shit in comparison then tricks can only help him so much. If he's somewhat close to Goku then they can actually give him an edge.)

Uh, I guess he did. Would be even messier if he upped his strength at the start.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Probably just pep talking himself if anything. No reason to resort to tricks if he's truly that confident in his strength. (His strength does matter though. If he was weak as shit in comparison then tricks can only help him so much. If he's somewhat close to Goku then they can actually give him an edge.)

Uh, I guess he did. Would be even messier if he upped his strength at the start.

but Goku said he was going to go all-out against Kuririn before the match.

Alright bro, anything else? I think there is some I don't like about it, and somethings just plain wrong, probably. What do you think?

 

[p123]

Goku ( vs Chappa ) = Goku ( Initial vs Krillen ).

Goku only starts bringing out his true power after they had fought for a while already, stated by Roshi.

 

[Kyo]

but Goku said he was going to go all-out against Kuririn before the match.

Alright bro, anything else? I think there is some I don't like about it, and somethings just plain wrong, probably. What do you think?

Well clearly he didn't

Idk, what don't you like?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

but Goku said he was going to go all-out against Kuririn before the match.

Alright bro, anything else? I think there is some I don't like about it, and somethings just plain wrong, probably. What do you think?

Well clearly he didn't

Idk, what don't you like?

You are right.

Akkuman, and Android #8 for example. I think Akkuman is probably way above Mummy-kun in power, which Android #8 I really don't think is.

Also like I said the Chapa-o stuff is bothering me.

Also for my own personal preference I'd rather that Cyborg Tao is a tier above Initial Young Piccolo.

There's probably something else, too. I just can't think of.

Anyways, I got to go to sleep now. So if you gais reply I won't see it until I wake-up. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: