Enel vs the CP9

[Pocket-God]

Round 1: Enel vs All the CP9 Members, the zoan users are restricted to their base forms
Round 2: Enel vs Transformed Lucci, Kaku and Jyabura

-The CP9 members can hit Enel as if they had Haki
-Enel knows that they can actually hit him

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Even if they can hit him, Enel's Mantra would probably prevent such, seeing as how his Observation Haki proficiency is amongst, if not the, best shown in the series thus far. That said, he dodges everything they throw at him and oneshots them all with either Raigou or El Thor.

Assuming he somehow managed to get hit, however, he'd probably stop at Base Lucci with most of Leopard Hybrid Lucci's attacks being capable of easily taking him out. CP9 would have to be careful or completely aware of his abilities, however, as waiting for the right moment to restart his heart could give him the opening needed to solo.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

Nah Eneru was getting tagged by Luffy. Jabra should win.

 

[Big Ank]

Since they can hit Enel, then Enel probably gets bodied seeing as Skypiea Luffy could already react to his attacks and hit him. I don`t think Enel could oneshot them either considering Zoro could withstand at least more than one attack, and Blueno`s tekai could give him the ability to tank all of Water 7 Luffy`s attacks, let alone the "trio monster" from CP9. With their tekai they should be able to withstand Enel`s El Thor IMO, and one shot him with either overpower Rokushiki attack.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Nah Eneru was getting tagged by Luffy. Jabra should win.

Mainly due to initially not expecting Luffy to be able to hit him and then being countered by Gomu Gomu no Baka. I imagine Kami-e may be a useful counter to his Mantra, though it all depends on who dodges initially and who counters. If Enel is the one to counter, his Mantra ought to hold the advantage.

I don`t think Enel could oneshot them either considering Zoro could withstand at least more than one attack, and Blueno`s tekai could give him the ability to tank all of Water 7 Luffy`s attacks, let alone the "trio monster" from CP9. With their tekai they should be able to withstand Enel`s El Thor IMO, and one shot him with either overpower Rokushiki attack.

Zoro and Luffy's durability is far above their actual power, as shown through Thriller Bark and the Whitebeard War. If a Gomu Gomu no Gatling is enough to break Lucci's Tekkai, they'd get vaporised by Enel's Town to Small Island level Lightning attacks if he got the chance to launch them.

 

[Big Ank]

A Gomu Gomu no Gatling from a way stronger Luffy, though, whose base power could already break through Blueno's Tekkai, the same guy who tanked attacks from a Luffy already above the one who defeated Enel. Zoro's durability can be way above his power would dictate, but not to the point of even being comparable to CP9's Tekkai, IMO. I don't see the problem with them withstanding Enel's attacks and they could just dodge it on the worst case scenario which should be possible with Soru considering Califa could already react to Nami's lightning from her clima tact IIRC.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

A Gomu Gomu no Gatling from a way stronger Luffy, though, whose base power could already break through Blueno's Tekkai, the same guy who tanked attacks from a Luffy already above the one who defeated Enel.

Who still isn't close to presenting the same kind of destruction feats as Enel until the timeskip.

Zoro's durability can be way above his power would dictate, but not to the point of even being comparable to CP9's Tekkai, IMO. I don't see the problem with them withstanding Enel's attacks

Maybe on equal grounds, but as far as their durability's peak goes, Zoro >>> CP9 based on him taking hits from Moria and Oars whilst still being resilient enough to absorb Luffy's pain afterwards. As I already said, Enel's El Thor showed Town level feats, which is far beyond the destructive power their Tekkai was shown to endure.

and they could just dodge it on the worst case scenario which should be possible with Soru considering Califa could already react to Nami's lightning from her clima tact IIRC.

That is highly probable.

 

[Big Ank]

Who still isn't close to presenting the same kind of destruction feats as Enel until the timeskip.

Destruction feats are highly dependable of the nature of the attack, and doesn't necessarily means the attack packs more "strength" in it. In the Arlong Park, look at Arlong' subordinate's destructive power:
http://mangalife.us/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-87-page-17.html
It's a destructive feat greater than most of Luffy vs Arlong, or Zoro vs Hachi for example.

The same can be said about Kaku, whose Sky Slicer had a more destructive force than Lucci's Rokuougan, shattering the high portion of the tower, while Lucci's Rokuougan was just able to scratch through the wall.

Or like Miss Doublefinger attack was able to completely break through the wall, while Bon-clay's Prima Ballerina Swan Bobardier:
http://mangalife.us/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-188-page-14.html

http://mangalife.us/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-192-page-13.html

So destructive feats doesn't kind compare to the amount of damage it will deal to the opponent.

Maybe on equal grounds, but as far as their durability's peak goes, Zoro >>> CP9 based on him taking hits from Moria and Oars whilst still being resilient enough to absorb Luffy's pain afterwards.

It was on Thriller Bark, like you said, whereas Zoro already had got a good deal stronger. But what I am saying is that I don't think Zoro's durability on Skypiea comes even close from CP9's Tekkai, which could allow them completely tank base Luffy's attacks. Based on how a stronger Zoro could deal with Lucci's Water 7 attack, it's highly suggestive Rokuougan is above Enel's top tier attack, despite destructive force showing otherwise.

As I already said, Enel's El Thor showed Town level feats, which is far beyond the destructive power their Tekkai was shown to endure.

And as I showed, those feats doesn't necessarily go hand in hand with the amount of damage the attack will deal to an opponent.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Whilst a lot of what you say in terms of destructive power makes sense in theory, it isn't that clear cut. In your examples, the characters in question can clearly benefit from scaling from said feats. That isn't the case when comparing Enel to CP9, however, as the only reason Luffy could take his attacks was due to his DF naturally resisting Enel, made clear by it effectively oneshotting two people on par with him (Zoro and Sanji). Furthermore, it's also worth noting that Luffy only compared the Rokuogan to the power of a Reject Dial. If the Rokuogan indeed was stronger than Enel's best attacks, wouldn't that have been a better comparison?

 

[xmysticgohanx]

Jabra's speed and strength compared to Skypeia Luffy should be way more than enough for Eneru. Eneru is very strong but Jabra's other stats are too far above him

 

[Big Ank]

Whilst a lot of what you say in terms of destructive power makes sense in theory, it isn't that clear cut. In your examples, the characters in question can clearly benefit from scaling from said feats. That isn't the case when comparing Enel to CP9, however, as the only reason Luffy could take his attacks was due to his DF naturally resisting Enel, made clear by it effectively oneshotting two people on par with him (Zoro and Sanji). Furthermore, it's also worth noting that Luffy only compared the Rokuogan to the power of a Reject Dial. If the Rokuogan indeed was stronger than Enel's best attacks, wouldn't that have been a better comparison?

Yeah, I know Luffy's devil fruit was the reason Luffy wasn't instantly knocked out by Enel... I just don't agree Enel's attacks >> CP9's based on destructive force and I showed arguments for it. It's said attacks without Haki don't have that much effect on Luffy's body, with Sanji being surprised Garp's punch was able to hurt him. Now if the Lucci's attack obviously had an effect on Luffy without the usage of Haki, I can't even imagine the effect it would have on Enel, who was essentially killed by the reject dial. Wiper also withstood more than one of Enel's attack, even after having completely shattered his bones from using the Reject Dial, yet Luffy's attacks could obviously hurt him, so I have my doubts if Enel's attacks are THAT stronger than Luffy's.

It was compared with a impact dial, not with a reject (if it was compared with a reject [which "killed"] Enel then the CP9's victory should be clear here ). I think such comparison was made due to the nature of the attack, both are "impact type" attacks. After saying that, Luffy stated Lucci's attack is way more powerful, so the comparison obviously wasn't just pertaining to power.

http://mangalife.us/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-425.html